Mary Cain sues Al Sal and Nike for $20 million over alleged abuse

Rojo, you are next on the hit-list. I predict LRC will soon be served.

Hope Nike fights this.

Bring in the HS coach and her former teammates. Expose her and her parents as frauds and nuts. Paint that picture.

bronx pain wrote:

This is ridiculous, it is her parents fault, they pushed her into this. After her freshman year where she split 2:03 at the outdoor HS nationals leading her team to the 4 x 800 title (3 frosh and a soph), then the next day ran a subpar mile finishing 6th. Her parents went to the Bronxville HS coach and told him she wasn't running relays anymore because it took away from her individual performance. She eventually quit the team to run on her own and go pro because she was somewhat of an outcast at her school. This all started at home, nice job mom and dad.

Hilariously, I had a parent get mad at me for taking their daughter out of a relay so she could focus on the 1600 at conference. They blamed her bad race on not having run the 4x800 to warm up and pointed to other athletes in the conference who doubled or tripled who had better races. Parents are so stupid it hurts. So reactionary in a sport that rewards the opposite.

I wonder is someone like Frank shorter supports her in that if she can get money in a lawsuit for what happened at NOP surely people who were beat growing will have it better later on?

Or would they roll their eyes at a privileged teen who got a 1/100th dose of the real world they experienced by age 12.

Frank should donate his services to Nike/Salazar. It’s gone too far!

You are dead on. Self absorbed and parents deliberately separated her from her teammates in high school.

Great talent early- but poor mechanics precluded from future greatness.

Iron Bars wrote:

Rojo, you are next on the hit-list. I predict LRC will soon be served.

The communications decency act will protect them. It places a high bar to hold a site publishing use generated content accountable. It’s also extremely unlikely to fly as a civil case by an individual as they would need to show a pattern and intent of persisting with defamatory content by site operators despite the plaintiff’s requests to delete that content.

(Just the messenger.)

I've been thinking this over and it just occurred to me that Mary Cain is an exemplary example of white privilege. She is a spoiled white brat with rich parents that never experiences what people of color do every day. What easier target than a visible minority like Salazar for her to express all her white privilege?

Jabba The Hut wrote:

I've been thinking this over and it just occurred to me that Mary Cain is an exemplary example of white privilege. She is a spoiled white brat with rich parents that never experiences what people of color do every day. What easier target than a visible minority like Salazar for her to express all her white privilege?

I thought it was only old white guys that were being targeted. It's great to have some company.

Jabba The Hut wrote:

I've been thinking this over and it just occurred to me that Mary Cain is an exemplary example of white privilege. She is a spoiled white brat with rich parents that never experiences what people of color do every day. What easier target than a visible minority like Salazar for her to express all her white privilege?

LOL

AlSal is so far in the right the race card is not necessary.

How is it emotional abuse when 100% of elite distance runners - both male and female - have to weigh as little as possible to win?

How is it emotional abuse when it is your job to win, run faster, and optimize your running economy?

Do female boxers cry like Mary Cain when they are publicy weighed in front of 100s of people at the weigh-in session?

Except mary is not even close to 5-10.

khcglhc wrote:

Wow. Billions will be awarded.

Let me think back. What did my coache(s) say to me?

Imagine. 100% of all competitive gymnasts will now be able to go after their coaches.

Gymnasts are exactly who I thought of. No young athletic girls take as much abuse on their bodies, mental health and evaluation of their body composition more than gymnasts. Especially the high level talents destined for success. They could file a class action lawsuit that would shut their whole sport down.

bronx pain wrote:

This is ridiculous, it is her parents fault, they pushed her into this. After her freshman year where she split 2:03 at the outdoor HS nationals leading her team to the 4 x 800 title (3 frosh and a soph), then the next day ran a subpar mile finishing 6th. Her parents went to the Bronxville HS coach and told him she wasn't running relays anymore because it took away from her individual performance. She eventually quit the team to run on her own and go pro because she was somewhat of an outcast at her school. This all started at home, nice job mom and dad.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^And we have a winner

Great post.

The logic of the lawsuit contradicts itself.

The lawsuit says Salazar was unprofessional as he gave her medical advice and nutrition advice despite not having degrees in those areas but at the same time complains that Salazar prevented Cain from getting advice from her parents, who of course know even less about those things for elite distance runners. So they wanted her to get unexpert advice from them but not him.

And they are the ones who had her quit her HS team when the coach is a legend.

Jabba The Hut wrote:

I've been thinking this over and it just occurred to me that Mary Cain is an exemplary example of white privilege. She is a spoiled white brat with rich parents that never experiences what people of color do every day. What easier target than a visible minority like Salazar for her to express all her white privilege?

Not sure about the white part, but out of the 7.753+ billion people in the world, she is absolutely one of the most privileged.

The US needs to stop all sports immediately and give everyone two cheeseburgers and a kind word.

America's fury wrote:

Jabba The Hut wrote:

I've been thinking this over and it just occurred to me that Mary Cain is an exemplary example of white privilege. She is a spoiled white brat with rich parents that never experiences what people of color do every day. What easier target than a visible minority like Salazar for her to express all her white privilege?

Not sure about the white part, but out of the 7.753+ billion people in the world, she is absolutely one of the most privileged.

The US needs to stop all sports immediately and give everyone two cheeseburgers and a kind word.

And a good slap in the butt when needed like the good ole days.

Here's the "science" behind insisting she had to weigh 114 lbs:

At 5'7" and 114, she would be 17.9 BMI. That's it. 18.5 is considered the lower bound of normal weight, and at 121, she would have been just above that. A 7 lb difference wouldn't have made her much faster but the effort to get there did make her unhealthier. Remember what BMI does not, that different people have different frames and what would mean one person at a given height was merely thin and manageable might be and was unmanageable for this other person. Recall that she was a great, great prospect as she was, and Salazar's daily and hourly obsession with weight and exercising while injured destroyed that great prospect. <55/1:59.51/4:04 at 17.

zxvczcxv wrote:

Here's the "science" behind insisting she had to weigh 114 lbs:

At 5'7" and 114, she would be 17.9 BMI. That's it. 18.5 is considered the lower bound of normal weight, and at 121, she would have been just above that. A 7 lb difference wouldn't have made her much faster but the effort to get there did make her unhealthier. Remember what BMI does not, that different people have different frames and what would mean one person at a given height was merely thin and manageable might be and was unmanageable for this other person. Recall that she was a great, great prospect as she was, and Salazar's daily and hourly obsession with weight and exercising while injured destroyed that great prospect. <55/1:59.51/4:04 at 17.

How much of an impact did Mother Nature have on her development?

What was her Q angle at 16? 17? 18? 19?

bronx pain wrote:

This is ridiculous, it is her parents fault, they pushed her into this. After her freshman year where she split 2:03 at the outdoor HS nationals leading her team to the 4 x 800 title (3 frosh and a soph), then the next day ran a subpar mile finishing 6th. Her parents went to the Bronxville HS coach and told him she wasn't running relays anymore because it took away from her individual performance. She eventually quit the team to run on her own and go pro because she was somewhat of an outcast at her school. This all started at home, nice job mom and dad.

I remember her story about being an outcast and my heart broke for her. I think a lot of girls were mean to her in HS and MS. At one point I think her dad or a relative posted on these boards (2019, right after her article came out) about her life growing up.