Old people: is the world crazier now than it used to be?

I'm old and I was politically active in the 60s (Students for a Democratic Society) and I can tell you one difference: we didn't confuse "executed" with "assassinated" the way Rojo does.

in all times in the world a part of people was stupid.

Vax Man wrote:

"Conservatives are more susceptible to lies because their side savors and spreads the lies"

Lmao, literally the same can be said for Leftists.

Both sides have fringe wackos. Both sides have reasonable people. If you think one side is more wacko or more reasonable that is your bias showing.

Both sides need to stop pointing to the wackos on the other side and claiming that all of them are like that.

The reasonable people from both sides need to start communicating like mature adults otherwise things will continue to get more divisive and violent.

Umm, ever heard of Liz Cheney?

Star wrote:

Maybe it was always this crazy and more and more people are sharing their real thoughts on social media which can reach far more people than people’s views in the past.

Then you take the fact that people are reading more if this and that helps spread the crazy.

Yeah, I certainly think there's truth in that. It used to be that people would talk crazy stuff with their buddies at the bar, and it stayed in that small circle, now it's done on the internet for the world to see or hear.

For example, it really bugs me how things said by random people on Twitter become news. I don't even use Twitter, but every day when I read the news online I get news stories about what some idiot said on Twitter. It's ridiculous that some random nobody says something online, then it gets picked up by Yahoo news or whatever, becomes actual news and shows up in everyone's Google news feed. Now you have millions of people getting upset about something some random nobody said. Garbage is amplified online and affects people's perceptions.

If you read history it’s been bad for thousands of years. Today it’s just projected more through 24/7 bad news cycles. Also as others have stated we now get in the minds of crazy people more readily with internet forums like this.

I don’t know not I think the revolutionary war was worse. The civil war was much worse. 50k died at Gettysburg alone! The civil rights was much worse with African Americans being lynched.

In America we are well fed, have clean water, and shelter opportunities are being built at a rapid rate. We have it very very very good.

Obviously.

Far less free too.

Some believe the elites pushing vaccine mandates care about our health.

Today does seem to me a particularly crazy/bad time, and that's almost completely on Trump.

Until Trump, all that crazy garbage lived only on right wing talk radio,

Trump brought it into the open.

And that cliche about there being no greater disinfectant than sunlight? Not always true. Trump has let tens of millions of Americans come out as terrible, radical, revolutionary people.

So the question is now what. If Trumpism loses in 2024 and we go back to a normal set of affairs, then this period will seem like a brief flareup of American yahoo-ism.

But if Trump is reelected and continues on this road he's started the country down....then we are in for the biggest historical moments since the civil war.

(I'll agree the 60s-early 70s were worse in a violent assassination sense. But the people running the country then were based in reality all all pretty much the same whether D or R. Both parties were within the 40 yard lines.

So they just kept the country on roughly the same tack. But now, the GOP is different - it wants to put the country on a totally different course than it is on now. This is the difference. We can't know what Trump would do the country if he had the reins for another 4 years)

There’s a lot of hyperbole in what you say. I did not vote for Trump but what specifically did he actually do that was “garbage.”

Low taxes, American focused industry, following established immigration laws, no terrorism tolerance, social and medical issues left to the individual states as the constitution states.

So besides the “orange man bad” hyperbole what was so wrong with his policies?

in a nutshell, he ended the idea that US presidents tell the truth except when they really can't.

Trump lied about almost everything, all the time, on purpose.

He degraded the basic idea that the truth is important and could be found out. Democracy depends on truth. Without truth, democracy just can't work. That stuff used to exist only on right wing talk radio. Now it's at the center of US politics. Incredibly dangerous.

I know that's not what you meant by 'policy' but it's the most important piece of the damage trump has done and will continue to do. I could talk policy if you want, but that's not as important. We can recover from bad policy. We can't necessarily recover from the loss of truth.

I'm in my mid 30s too but it's clear as day that things are worse now than ever

Internet

Social media

Markets

Obesity

Divorce

Wage gaps

Automation

Moving mfg overseas

Are some examples of what's driving the fact that things are worse today. I'm not saying ban all these - just pointing out that they have consequences.

top guy wrote:

I'm in my mid 30s too but it's clear as day that things are worse now than ever

Internet

Social media

Markets

Obesity

Divorce

Wage gaps

Automation

Moving mfg overseas

Are some examples of what's driving the fact that things are worse today. I'm not saying ban all these - just pointing out that they have consequences.

internet is bad but also has raised living standards enormously

Social media is bad at times but also relieves loneliness for billions

markets? Not sure what you mean there. Markets have been the greatest wealth engine in our lifetimes. more honest and clear than ever before.

Obesity yeah ok agreed

divorce rates have been falling, not rising

wage gaps are generally a myth or at least not as bad as the media wants you to believe

automation has lowered prices for almost everything we buy,raising living standards.

moving mfgring overseas...well ok but that's pretty much over and anyway, automation costs more mfgring jobs than offshoring. But sure, this is bad in a way. but really...do you want americans making low wages making shoes and toys? Really? Seems to me with our vastly high educated population we should aim higher.

Bear in mind that the liberal definition of "misperception" is "any opinion that isn't approved leftist dogma".

We have NEVER had such a period of time in my lifetime where so many people are simply out of touch with reality and stupidity is cheered.

At least, never a time where those people had such a voice.

Donald Trump brought these people out of the woodwork. The uneducated and misinformed and stupid have been told that their opinions on important matters have value. They don't.

We didn't used to put up with crazy people...and let's be clear, Donald Trump is batsh!t crazy. Beyond being a POS human being, he is simply out of his freakin' mind.

If we go back to the eccentric Ross Perot, he was gaining a lot of popularity as a candidate in the Republican Party (before he eventually ran as an Independent), but then the wheels fell off for him because of two things he did:

1) Referred to black people during a speech as "you people".

2) He made a somewhat crazy statement regarding the CIA and his daughter's wedding.

Those two things are NOTHING compared to the insanity and offensiveness that has come out of that Orange POS's mouth, and yet, that Orange POS got elected President and developed a cult following.

An even more legitimate Presidential candidate, Gary Hart, we summarily cancelled because he had an affair (John Edwards too), and yet today Evangelical Christians not only have embraced Donald Trump (who has had multiple affairs on multiple wives) with many women at his stupid rallies saying they wouldn't mind if he grabbed them by the p*ssy.

So, OP, yes, the world, at least the US, is crazier than ever.

RichardRider wrote:

TMADDDHASFNE wrote:

Satan has infected the minds of those that are in control of the institutions that once had people who were raised with values instilled by a Judeo-Christian worldview. Now the marxist godless communists are in control.

No. The truth is what this person has written. The problem is not new.

Didn’t realize that there were so many stupid fundies here

samulih wrote:

".In the census of 1930, two million children aged 10-18 still worked and 700,000 were under the age of 15"

Last lynching was in 1961 in USA.

yeah, things are much better.

Whether or not things are BETTER now was not the question. The question was about craziness.

We are in a state of craziness I have never seen in my lifetime, BUT, despite the craziness (because most of the craziness doesn't actually affect me or most people in a tangible way), today's world is better than ever. I would not want to go back in time to live at any time other than now. Our medicines are better. Our technology is better. Our entertainment options are better. Our quality of life is better. We have moved away from that racist symbol, the Confederate Battle Flag. We have more women and POC in politics than ever before.

It is the best time in the history of the world to be alive...it just unfortunately coincides with a ton of stupid crazy people out there.

The liberals obsession with Trump is what's batsh!t crazy. Yeah, he's not a nice guy. Big deal. Over 4 years of the Russian collusion lies from the party of peace and unity. Now when real facts come out to reveal all of the lies, the party of peace and unity just refuses to believe them. Who are the real conspiracy following morans?

People voted for him because they were sick of the corruption and lies and flat-out indifference of their leaders to any of the real people's problems. To associate every thought that doesn't follow the liberal lying narrative with "oh, you must be a Trumper..." is flat out insane.

The definition of a moran/a$$, is someone who can't consider that other intelligent people can have differing opinions to their own.

Star wrote:

Maybe it was always this crazy and more and more people are sharing their real thoughts on social media which can reach far more people than people’s views in the past.

Then you take the fact that people are reading more if this and that helps spread the crazy.

I suspect that this is the right answer. I'm sure people have always been crazy. Now with the internet and social media, everyone on the planet has a platform to announce their craziness.

OMG. Do you know the difference between an execution and an assassination?

Self-awareness: 0/10