Why is everyone so obsessed with Gabby Petito?

zdf wrote:

Oil embargo wrote:

He will never been caught. He is a vestige in the sands of time. The Big Fade. He had a four day head start on the bumbling FBI. He's sipping beers on a beach in Caracas. You will never see Laundry again.

He'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got the grail already.

Lol, nice reference.

Smoove wrote:

For those who think this guy has gone to ground, never to be found again, how do you imagine he’s going to stay off the radar with no money?

This guy’s parents own a 1500 square foot house that they bought for $120k back in 2015 according to the public records. That doesn’t sound like a prosperous enough family to fund a 23 year old for the rest of his life.

If he’s not dead, he’ll turn up.

Agree he'll turn up dead or alive but people who have modest homes can have their money in the bank instead of tied up in the equity of their excessive house. Did they work their entire lives? Did they downsize in 2015? They were smart enough to get an attorney when they knew he was guilty...

zdf wrote:

Oil embargo wrote:

He will never been caught. He is a vestige in the sands of time. The Big Fade. He had a four day head start on the bumbling FBI. He's sipping beers on a beach in Caracas. You will never see Laundry again.

He'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got the grail already.

Remember the Olympic Park bomber, who was supposedly such a great survivalist? They eventually picked him up scrounging for food in a dumpster. This guy doesn't have the means or skills to hide for very long...

Smoove wrote:

I’d like to hear from anyone who doesn’t think he caused her death. My guess is, that if you forced each person on this sting to choose “he probably directly caused her death” or “he didn’t directly cause her death” very, very few would say “he probably didn’t.”

Travelling around the US in a small van with a bed in the back, two seats in the front... sounds like a recipe for mental health problems, not the idyllic lifestyle they were trying to portray.

I hpoe parents warn their kids to be wary of this fantasy lifestyle.

Thoughts on why FBI called off the search in the reserve a couple days back only to resume

it a day or so later? Seems like they changed their mind on whether he was or was not or indeed was after all in the reserve.

This thread brought up another thought. Do you have a contingency plan in place in the back of your mind if you had to go into hiding? Maybe a place you have hiked a lot or a place you went as a kid. Anyone have a go bag in the closet with cash, clothes, and maybe a firearm. Every time I see a movie where the main character moves a hidden panel and retrieves a few bundles of cash and new id cards I tell myself I should do that. No ill intentions or anything but more like a situation from the movie "The fugitive" where the guy was innocent.

I don't know, but wrote:

Travelling around the US in a small van with a bed in the back, two seats in the front... sounds like a recipe for mental health problems, not the idyllic lifestyle they were trying to portray.

I hpoe parents warn their kids to be wary of this fantasy lifestyle.

Their van bed seemed so tiny, almost like a bean bag. I’d probably develop hip issues sleeping like that for weeks on end. Also, the bathroom and tight water situation is a bit much for that long a time. It’s quite a drill cooking with a small stove, cleaning dishes, refilling water from nearby civilization periodically, skipping showers or relying on campground water sources alone, pooping in the wild, etc. It can be fun and discipline-building for a few days, but can get to you after weeks on end. Instagram is probably the only reason they were motivated enough to stick through it.

Am guessing they just graduated from college and they and their parents thought they deserved a brief fantasy.

Backpacking is mostly fun if the weather is nice. Although I haven't tried this in bear country.

What exactly were they trying to achieve in that van? Internet fame and fortune?

TNrunnerTundra wrote:

This thread brought up another thought. Do you have a contingency plan in place in the back of your mind if you had to go into hiding? Maybe a place you have hiked a lot or a place you went as a kid. Anyone have a go bag in the closet with cash, clothes, and maybe a firearm. Every time I see a movie where the main character moves a hidden panel and retrieves a few bundles of cash and new id cards I tell myself I should do that. No ill intentions or anything but more like a situation from the movie "The fugitive" where the guy was innocent.

Not me. I won’t get a firearm coz I’d be afraid of suicide (majority of gun deaths) in a weak moment. I also won’t have an escape planned just coz I’d never ever want to be in a situation where I have to rely on escape from civilization. I’d think having an escape planned might make it easier to commit crimes because you might be thinking in the back of your head that you have an exit strategy all planned out already.

I’d much rather succeed within civilization or die in the process. It’s a lot funner playing the civilization game than quitting.

TNrunnerTundra wrote:

This thread brought up another thought. Do you have a contingency plan in place in the back of your mind if you had to go into hiding? Maybe a place you have hiked a lot or a place you went as a kid. Anyone have a go bag in the closet with cash, clothes, and maybe a firearm. Every time I see a movie where the main character moves a hidden panel and retrieves a few bundles of cash and new id cards I tell myself I should do that. No ill intentions or anything but more like a situation from the movie "The fugitive" where the guy was innocent.

Not going to follow any strategy in life based on a scripted, fictionalized movie plot. Unless trained in the special forces like Rambo, none of us would survive for long out there and evade capture. Plenty of better-prepared people have tried and failed.

TNrunnerTundra wrote:

This thread brought up another thought. Do you have a contingency plan in place in the back of your mind if you had to go into hiding? Maybe a place you have hiked a lot or a place you went as a kid. Anyone have a go bag in the closet with cash, clothes, and maybe a firearm. Every time I see a movie where the main character moves a hidden panel and retrieves a few bundles of cash and new id cards I tell myself I should do that. No ill intentions or anything but more like a situation from the movie "The fugitive" where the guy was innocent.

Have you guys got the equivalent of this show in the US?

If he’s indeed hiding in that FL reserve or really anywhere in the US in wilderness, he’s almost certainly overestimating his ability to survive off the grid, possibly biased by his recent monthlong van life and camping experience.

It’s easy to underestimate how simply not having any human interaction for an extended period can drive most people crazy, even the most hardened criminals, which is why it is considered torture. Even for chimps, being banished from their group is a near certain death sentence.

His only chance of survival is if he’s magically adopted by some off-the-grid community that doesn’t care about mainstream US news media (very unlikely in the US), or if he’s already jumped the border to another country (and if so, that is almost certainly Mexico) where he is less likely to be recognized.

A homeless camp would work as an off-the-grid-community.

I think I remember seeing a commercial for something like this somewhere. Cool concept.

It was a BFD! wrote:

mr38 wrote:

yeah this has "fair trial" written all over it

Somehow Casey Anthony got a "fair trial" and that murdering bi#ch is now off living her life. Her actions regarding her own child make Laundrie's actions look normal.

This case reminds me a lot of casey Anthony. Obviously guilty but only circumstantial evidence. Casey Anthony being found not guilty was the correct call. As long as this guy doesn't incriminate himself and no nee evidence comes out, he should walk..... though, yes, he definitely did it

Here's the thing about Rambo, that's not at all how special forces (or the military in general) operate. You live and die as a team. When you go off on your own like that trying to be Rambo is when things go bad, for you and your unit.

The fugitives who evade capture long term are the ones who have contacts in high places or on the inside helping them.

Oscar Ponce was never caught. We could all learn from his example.

Jimmy21 wrote:

It was a BFD! wrote:

Somehow Casey Anthony got a "fair trial" and that murdering bi#ch is now off living her life. Her actions regarding her own child make Laundrie's actions look normal.

This case reminds me a lot of casey Anthony. Obviously guilty but only circumstantial evidence. Casey Anthony being found not guilty was the correct call. As long as this guy doesn't incriminate himself and no nee evidence comes out, he should walk..... though, yes, he definitely did it

The Anthony case is not the same because the method of death was not determined, and not able to pin the mother down to the scene of her child's makeshift burial (not DNA). But there is "Misprision of felony" in the U.S. law books which states, "Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both." This is not about failure to report. This has to do with intentional concealment. If his DNA is at the place of her death, and along a path from where the van was parked, then he is screwed. Taking the 5th will not save him.

I'm just here to speculate on Petito and the boyfriend's hypothetical 5k times.

Petito - Thin frame, but doesn't look too sturdy in pics. She might have managed a 22 min. 5k.

Boyfriend - looks like a possible Crossfit Bro type., but decently fit. 19 min. 5k