Libs go home absolutely devastated
Libs go home absolutely devastated
1. An FDA Advisory panelrejected the plan,
2. Their opinion must be that the vaccines given are still effective. How is that 'libs devastated'?
3. Stay tuned, this is not the final word anyway.
Thank goodness. I thought the FDA and CDC were owned by pharma. I'm glad some objectivity prevailed today.
This plan was premature because while those over 70 and immune-compromised might well need a booster, there was no certainty that continuing to give boosters to the rest of the population every six months would confer significant advantages (and might even be counterproductive eventually) over a bigger effort to give vaccines to people around the world in regions with very low vaccination rates.
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I now fully expect biden and the cdc to ignore this and push the boosters anyway
They are voting now to change the wording to apply to those 65 and older plus those at high risk for severe covid
Devastated? Liberals jerk off to devastation. How can they be virtuous heroes without it?
The boosters were their hope to keep pretending the vaccines worked. Now they will
1) try to get boosters anyway, without the FDA;
2) failing that, admit they didn't work but blame Trump.
3) try to impose more lockdowns. Winter's coming!
Vote in: 100% approval for the modified wording (65+, those at high risk)
Data on boosters and under 60 is weak. Vaxes are not waning much for under 60. However, there is good data showing that vaxes are waning for people 60+. There was some support on the board for approving boosters for 60+, but not enough. FDA will revisit this and this is not a final thumbs down.
I think this is a mistake as far as over 60 goes. There is good data out of Israel showing a big benefit against breakthrough infections and severe disease for over 60. My parents are in their 80s and got vaxxed in February. They were just starting to get out of the house over the summer, but are now afraid to go anywhere until they get a booster.
What good would a booster do if the initial shot barely works to begin with?
Bad Wigins wrote:
Devastated? Liberals jerk off to devastation. How can they be virtuous heroes without it?
The boosters were their hope to keep pretending the vaccines worked. Now they will
1) try to get boosters anyway, without the FDA;
2) failing that, admit they didn't work but blame Trump.
3) try to impose more lockdowns. Winter's coming!
How many cases do you predict in this wave?
I enjoy your input
Boosters to very old or sick makes sense.
No evidence for need to boost the young and healthy. MUCH larger benefit form using those doses on the unvax.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Devastated? Liberals jerk off to devastation. How can they be virtuous heroes without it?
The boosters were their hope to keep pretending the vaccines worked. Now they will
1) try to get boosters anyway, without the FDA;
2) failing that, admit they didn't work but blame Trump.
3) try to impose more lockdowns. Winter's coming!
4) Blame the unvaccinated for all the illness, hospitalization and death among the vaccinated.
5) Make the necessary payments to get the Nobel Prize in Medicine for Fauci.
6) Continue the use of observation status to lie about hospital admissions.
BTW this is solely for those who received the Pfizer vax; Moderna will be considered soon, I believe, and J&J will be considered later. I know that that J&J is looking at multiple dosage levels--100%, 50%, and 20%--in their booster trial (which I am in).
7.) Not get Covid
8.) Laugh when you idiots get your Herman Cain award
2600 bro wrote:
Boosters to very old or sick makes sense.
No evidence for need to boost the young and healthy. MUCH larger benefit form using those doses on the unvax.
Vaccines to the very old or sick sometimes makes sense.
No evidence of need for vaccines among the young and healthy. MUCH larger benefit in throwing those doses into the trash.
Fixed.
DanM wrote:
4) Blame the unvaccinated for all the illness, hospitalization and death among the vaccinated.
5) Make the necessary payments to get the Nobel Prize in Medicine for Fauci.
6) Continue the use of observation status to lie about hospital admissions.
I still can't believe you got so MAD that unvaccinated were filling up hospitals that you made up a conspiracy theory to explain it.
Despite ZERO evidence in support. You guys are allergic to facts.
This makes sense. Where you want to keep sterilizing immunity high as breakthrough cases have the potential to get severe.
Harambe wrote:
https://twitter.com/megtirrell/status/1438965256441761792?s=20This makes sense. Where you want to keep sterilizing immunity high as breakthrough cases have the potential to get severe.
I’m a professor of medicine at a US medical school and have spent the last 1.5 years taking care of covid patients. The FDA got this right. Nearly all the breakthrough covid in those vaccinated occurs in the elderly or those who are immune compromised. 85-90% of those in the ICU with covid are unvaccinated and the rest fall into one of these groups. After a booster these groups are far more protected, but for how long is unknown. Moderna is likely better and more durable for delta than Pfizer, so a Moderna booster is a bit more of a stretch, but probably will be a yes for high risk groups too.