Was the polio vaccine has polarizing as the covid vaccines?

Disko Eric wrote:

There’s massive difference between someone with the sniffles for a week and someone confined to a wheelchair for life. What do you think!

It appears this dude ended up with more than the sniffles.....

Did everyone who contracted polio end up in a wheelchair?

fully vaxxed, anti-masked wrote:

I don't think society was ever forcibly shut down over polio. I suspect a lot of vaccine hesitancy is (at least partly) a reactionary response to overwhelming and unprecedented restrictions on freedom for the year preceding its release. It's people going "f*** this. I've had enough. Chicken Little, I'm not listening anymore."

They're doing it at exactly the wrong time, since the vaccines can actually help us, but after Public Health USA literally canceled Christmas and forced people to walk around with rags on their faces for 18 straight months, people have gotten fed up and stop listening to reason.

The lesson: you can only demand so much from people, and you've got to save your capital for things that really matter.

I definitely think this is part of it. I don't remember where, but I recently read something about "dire weather cellphone alerts." People got so used to them being wrong, they just get pissed off whenever the warnings arrive.

From a "big picture" perspective, you can divide people (as someone upthread did) into "smart" and "dumb" if you want to. But if the smart were truly smart, they would have figured out how to frame COVID measures in a way that smart and dumb alike would have accepted them. Instead, the smart have pissed off and alienated the dumb. The dumb are mutating the virus and infecting the smart with it.

So remind me again about who's smart and who's dumb?

How many polio boosters were there? hahahahahaha...

the Covid $camdemic is the biggest power grab of all time.

Pfizer's laboratory reports this:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/health-ministry-chief-says-coronavirus-spread-reaching-record-heights/

In April 1955 more than 200 000 children in five Western and mid-Western USA states received a polio vaccine in which the process of inactivating the live virus proved to be defective. Within days there were reports of paralysis and within a month the first mass vaccination programme against polio had to be abandoned. Subsequent investigations revealed that the vaccine, manufactured by the California-based family firm of Cutter Laboratories, had caused 40 000 cases of polio, leaving 200 children with varying degrees of paralysis and killing 10.

Many old people died of the flu pre covid. Now all these previous old age flu deaths are switched to covid deaths. When your immune system is shot and your time is up, any ailment will end you. Covid is a propaganda, agenda driven machine.

In the 1960s, serious adverse events associated with smallpox vaccination in the United States included death (1/million vaccinations), progressive vaccinia (1.5/million vaccinations), eczema vaccinatum (39/million vaccinations), postvaccinial encephalitis (12/million vaccinations), and generalized vaccinia (241/million vaccinations).20 Adverse events were approximately ten times more common among those vaccinated for the first time compared to revaccinees.20 Fatality rates were also four times higher for primary vaccinees compared to revaccinees.21

Mind games wrote:

MRNA isn't a vaccine. It contains no live or dead organism. Stop calling it that.

This is like saying the Tesla Model 3 isn't a car because it doesn't have a gas engine.

A vaccine is defined by what it does, not by what it contains. There is no requirement that a vaccine contain live or dead organisms.

I don’t need a vaccine for a runny nose and mild headache.

Polio though. I trust the years and decades that went into developing a vaccine for that,

Runner10287 wrote:

I don’t need a vaccine for a runny nose and mild headache.

Polio though. I trust the years and decades that went into developing a vaccine for that,

Salk's polio vaccine first went into trials in 1953. It was approved and licensed in 1955 with President Eisenhower vigorously supporting mass vaccination efforts. Polio cases went from about 35k a year in 1953 to about 5k after the first mass vaccination campaign and by 1960 there were fewer than 200 cases. Had Eisenhower waited for decades of safety data before pushing a mass vaccination effort for Polio, over a half million children would have been disabled or died from polio.

RedditisBetter wrote:

Disko Eric wrote:

There’s massive difference between someone with the sniffles for a week and someone confined to a wheelchair for life. What do you think!

It appears this dude ended up with more than the sniffles.....

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/leader-of-anti-vaxxer-community-dies-of-covid-19-679339

Did everyone who contracted polio end up in a wheelchair?

The people I know got the sniffles, if anything.

question for the boomers wrote:

Trolls welcome to chime in too.

Finally. A bit of inclusivity. Thanks for thinking of us.

Is this a joke? Polio vaccine rollout is literally what spurred people to seriously consider if vaccines are safe. Overall, in the decades to come, after years of research and testing, it's finally safe enough to get. But the vaccine killed thousands of people who were otherwise had not contracted polio.

underappreciated troll wrote:

question for the boomers wrote:

Trolls welcome to chime in too.

Finally. A bit of inclusivity. Thanks for thinking of us.

No problem at all.

ya..... wrote:

Is this a joke? Polio vaccine rollout is literally what spurred people to seriously consider if vaccines are safe. Overall, in the decades to come, after years of research and testing, it's finally safe enough to get. But the vaccine killed thousands of people who were otherwise had not contracted polio.

The Cutter pharmaceutical polio vax was a manufacturing defect (virus wasn't properly inactivated) and while it resulted in 40,000 polio cases, it only caused 10 deaths and 250 paralytic cases. The Salk vax was replaced by Sabin's oral polio vax in the 1960s. That vax was improved in the 1980s but the low cost Sabin OPV was used in the global vaccination effort in the 1990s that is credited for eliminating polio in India. The Polio vax was developed and deployed very quickly and did not result in thousands of deaths. The Sabin vax has been used for decades.

You have to remember the LRC rule.

Anti vaxxers and COVID deniers, by statute, are given a 2 order of magnitude(!!) margin of error on ALL STATISTICS. It’s only fair for the completely numerically deficient.

So thus the poster’s assertion of “thousands” while the true number was 10 is technically correct!

N.B. Bad Wiggins 2600 case prediction is, sadly, still wrong.

Runner10287 wrote:

I don’t need a vaccine for a runny nose and mild headache.

Polio though. I trust the years and decades that went into developing a vaccine for that,

This is borderline incoherent. Do you think mRNA vaccines were just conjured out of thin air in 2020?

taco shells wrote:

Go for Ed Chambers wrote:

Ok, let’s do the math

650,000 / 333,000,000 = .00195

Duh!

I love it when heartless pricks reduce 650,000 dead people to a tiny decimal in an attempt to make those dead people less significant.

how about 9/11 3000/333,000,000 = 0.000009

how about Benghazi 4/333,000,000 = 0.000000012

See you fool, what you are doing is very offensive. And, the only point it proves is how big of an AHOLE you are!

Wow. taco shells FTW. Go for Ed Chambers goes home DEVASTATED!

rfg wrote:

You start threads every day. More or less subtle, they are all vaccine-pushing threads. And you still can't manage to get one thread title without spelling mistakes...

Indeed Sally is a very poor but relentless troll