Run Theo Epstein out of Boston

Alex, how's the 400 mile week going? Are you still getting ready to peak for that 5k in January?

Cabrera was intended to be a stopgap as well. The fact that he performed above expectations was nice but not expected to continue. He wanted too much money and years for a player of his numbers. If he had been a little less demanding, he would still be with the sox. He was far better he was than expectations, but not expected to be worth what he was asking

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Again, please answer the question, why do you care what Orlando Cabrera makes let alone anyone else in MLB? As I had stated earlier there are no small market teams in baseball, just cheap owners.

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Fault Theo for a lot of things but you can't fault him for not being psychic enough to know that Renteria was going to bomb.

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You're only arguing your side of view, it's your tunnel-mindedness that makes you appear an unintelligent baseball fan. If that's the case, then I guess you can't give credit to Epstein for getting rid of Nomar. He was capable of putting up .325 20-25HR's, but you would be the same person if it were Duquette that gave up Nomar and he ended up having a good year with the Cubs. Absolute hypocrisy!

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Mientkiewicz was also a stop-gap player, just like Cabrera. The difference was that unlike Cabrera, he underperformed

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First Mientkiewicz was an average player for the Sox, then he underperformed, which is it? Make up your mind. But hey, it's not Theo's fault, he's not a mind reader. Heck, let's bring back Mark McGwire, he hit 70 HR's one year. What? He's batting .180 with 15 HR's this year? Oh, I see, not Theo's fault McGwire is underperforming even though he's approaching being "over the hill".

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Yeah, you really have a deep insight into the game of baseball, Alex. Pay attention now, you'll learn something: Towards the end of each season -- in September -- the major league roster expands. Teams are allowed to have more players than previously. THAT is when the Red Sox picked up Roberts. They only got him then for pinch running ability. That's a LUXURY, Alex. One that they cannot afford when the permitted roster size shrinks back down at the beginning of the year. So they had to get rid of him.

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And you weren't one of the ones bashing Lou Gorman when he made the Larry Anderson for Jeff Bagwell trade back in "86" now where you? So they ended up getting rid of all 3 players that they acquired for Nomar? You're insane! I don't know how anyone could justify such a stupid thing.

I also didn't see you bash Epstein for getting injury plagued Wade Miller. The hypocrites are the ones that talk about running on letsrun.com. Let's save the quality posts for the brighter baseball fans.

I don't give a damn what he makes. But clearly he was not worth to the Red Sox owners the money he was making. Theo had a budget. He doesn't sign the checks. Cabrera didn't fit into it.

No, imbecile, simple reasoning. Nomar was a cancer on the clubhouse, plain and simple. Those numbers are nice but not much help if the man doesn't play. He was injured all the time, his teammates didn't give a damn about him. With Cabrera the chemistry was better and the moment he showed up, they went on a tear.

And of COURSE I'm arguing my side of the view. Did you expect me to argue yours?

Actually I said he underperformed based on your number of .290 - .300 average which I didn't bother to check. Now, based on other posts, it appears you are full of it there as well. I don't have a reference on me. Regardless, I had forgotten about his fielding ability and that major reason why they used him. Thanks to the other poster for reminding me of that. They would only bring him in towards the end of games in which they were ahead -- to have a better glove at first base. He was yet another late-season luxury. Just like Roberts

No I was not. You're grasping at straws now.

They got them for a brief time, used them when they needed them, and then got rid of them when they no longer needed them. Yeah, that's stupid allright. Maybe in Alex world.

Bottom line Alex: Theo won a championship, largely in part to players he acquired. Duquette couldn't do it after years and years of trying. Duquette alienated the players and the managers. Nobody was sorry to see Duquette leave. Everyone is sorry to see Theo leave.

If you ever should meet one, let us know.

Minkiewicz and Cabrera both sucked cause they didnt run enough mileage. Maybe if they did 234 mile weeks, they'd have stayed. Roberts however was a fast treadmill runner. At least they didnt have to run the ill-calibrated streets of DC. Whew.

the duke gets no credit....Filides buy a clue. Manny? Garciaparra? Pedro?? pleeeaseeee. All three of them wanted out of there and two of them already are and manny's on his way. Everyone hated the Duke and dind't want to play for his team. Mo vaughn, Roger Clemens....gone because of the Duke. The Duke low balled clemens and lied to him and is the reason he didn't end his career in Boston. Epstein did a miricle job keeping pedro and manny in boston as long as he did after the wake Duke left. The guy was an ass who was not liked by his players and created a bad team environment.

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Red Sox Nation wrote:

Do yourself a favor and read "Moneyball". That will teach you how Theo operates and why a guy with a .550 OBP and a good glove means more in the lineup than an oft injured superstar who hits 30 dingers and whiffs 1/3 of the time.

I read "Moneyball" and from what I read a "good glove" is not an issue for Billy Beane. Defense does not matter than much.

I have finally been motivated to Post - Duquette would have f'd it up - He is, was, and will always be a LOSER.

That being said - if a 31 year old GM doesn't want to take $1.5 m per year - then hit the road. Nobody that never goes on the field is worth that much.

Hopefully the cubs will hire him and then a team with a real curse can win. The Sox were 3rd in line I believe.

cubbies wrote:

Hopefully the cubs will hire him and then a team with a real curse can win. The Sox were 3rd in line I believe.

That's something we could all live with.

200 miles.

I realize his original post was 200 miles for a marathon. I was embelishing that by now he may be running 400 miles for a 5k.

I once cracked 19:00 off of less than 1/4 of that (I ran 90 mpw for 3 months).

Now Lucchino and Co. are trying to get rid of Manny Ramirez and Johnny Damon. I dare anyone to stick up for this group now.

You remind me of the Duke.

Who was sticking up for Lucchino? They were sticking up for Theo, you idiot.