sportwatcher wrote:
Train harder and stop whining…
Said in a deep mannish voice.
sportwatcher wrote:
Train harder and stop whining…
Said in a deep mannish voice.
Virtue is a Patient wrote:
Jimmkner wrote:
And yet you defend a known cheater in Shelby Houlihan. Words do mean something. Hypocrisy defines you and others. But the question is why? You are smart enough to not show the hypocrisy. Why?
Actually, This statement is incorrect. SH is not a "Known" cheater. The report itself indicated that "it was possible" just not likely. That is not "knowing." That is suspecting with reasonable cause. But nothing is "known."
A convicted doper shown to be an implausible liar. That's "reasonable cause".
Disko Eric wrote:
She doesn’t introduce herself as “intersex athlete Christine Mboma” so why would you label her that in the title? You’re a hypocrite. The title is transphobic. I don’t even care about the labels, but you yell at us about it. We know who she is. You don’t have to add that descriptor.
So the thread should simply assume that "she" is just another female athlete, because to state the obvious - that Mboma isn't - is "transphobic".
StayerFan wrote:
Why do you always call Mboma intersex athlete with XY chromosomes? Do you have any profe? We only know she has high T-level, but it DOESN'T mean she is intersex!
If "she" has male testosterone levels she isn't female. So what does that leave us with?
Jimmkner wrote:
Mako T&F Enthusiast wrote:
It is unacceptable that biological women are required to compete against athletes with male chromosomes.
Oh so they are required to? Really?
When the rules allow male competitors - yes, they are.
Rojo hates Intersex athletes but defends dopers. Got it
sportwatcher wrote:
Train harder and stop whining…
Riiiiiiight.
thoughtsfailure wrote:
It is biologically IMPOSSIBLE to have those levels of testosterone without a Y chromosome.
You're just lying. A lot of people (really knowledgeable) says it's POSSIBLE and it can work with Mboma.
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=10689924DietBacon wrote:
The rule only applies to athletes with a DSD. If she just happened to have super high testosterone by chance (to a level which goes against every precedent from every other women out there), she would still be allowed to race the 400m.
The rule applies to almost all women with a high T-level. DSD doesn't mean that you are intersex. This is a very broad concept with different characteristics.
StayerFan wrote:
thoughtsfailure wrote:
It is biologically IMPOSSIBLE to have those levels of testosterone without a Y chromosome.
You're just lying. A lot of people (really knowledgeable) says it's POSSIBLE and it can work with Mboma.
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=10689924
What works for Mboma is having testes.
StayerFan wrote:
DietBacon wrote:
The rule only applies to athletes with a DSD. If she just happened to have super high testosterone by chance (to a level which goes against every precedent from every other women out there), she would still be allowed to race the 400m.
The rule applies to almost all women with a high T-level. DSD doesn't mean that you are intersex. This is a very broad concept with different characteristics.
Women do not have male T-levels.
+1
Virtue is a Patient wrote:
Jimmkner wrote:
And yet you defend a known cheater in Shelby Houlihan. Words do mean something. Hypocrisy defines you and others. But the question is why? You are smart enough to not show the hypocrisy. Why?
Actually, This statement is incorrect. SH is not a "Known" cheater. The report itself indicated that "it was possible" just not likely. That is not "knowing." That is suspecting with reasonable cause. But nothing is "known."
Well said ; the rules just don’t allow that to
be tested .
Armstronglivs wrote:
Women do not have male T-levels.
Because male T-levels don't exist at all.
If they don’t change the rules Mboma is going to put the 200m female record out of reach in a year or two.
StayerFan wrote:
Why do you always call Mboma intersex athlete with XY chromosomes? Do you have any profe? We only know she has high T-level, but it DOESN'T mean she is intersex!
Because the World Athletics rule applies specifically to athletes with 46 XY DSD.
If the rule is being applied to Mboma - and we know that it is because she cannot run the 400m - it’s because she has 46 XY DSD.
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thoughtsfailure wrote:
StayerFan wrote:
Why do you always call Mboma intersex athlete with XY chromosomes? Do you have any profe? We only know she has high T-level, but it DOESN'T mean she is intersex!
It is biologically IMPOSSIBLE to have those levels of testosterone without a Y chromosome.
Factually incorrect.
You sound quite bigoted. Where is she suppose to compete then? If she has a small pair of testicles it's not her fault she was born with them.
StayerFan wrote:
Why do you always call Mboma intersex athlete with XY chromosomes? Do you have any profe? We only know she has high T-level, but it DOESN'T mean she is intersex!
Yes, it does! It's the internal testicles who produce the elevated levels of testosteron.