A jacked guy who had a 10.03 pb at the beginning of the year just won the Olympic 100 final.

"Person improves at sport and discipline he gets paid to train and be internationally competitive in! Shocker!"

In my opinion, Kerley’s 9.84- Oly silver-43.5- Worlds bronze considerably trumps Gay’s 9.69 Worlds silver-44-high.

I don’t know who in world history would be talented enough to go 9.8 and 43.5 on the same training plan. Lol.

I don’t see how the fact that they’re training for the distances diminishes their accomplishments. Do you just want to know who the best untrained athletes are? Guys like Bolt would be even more dominant if we just took it to the playground— lol

Who else has won WC/Oly medals in both 100m and 400m?

Thomas Burke at the 1896 Olympics perhaps

I wonder if Wayde Van Niekerk could’ve replicated this had he not gotten hurt. Recall he ran 9.94 dabbling it in 2017 outside of top meetings.

+1...

Spot on Rojo. My sentiments exactly. We need a clown detector for some of these jackass comments from people like @sprinterguy make on these boards.

"It's my opinion, so it should matter!" No, it doesn't!!! smfh

Sprintgeezer wrote:

William Faulkner is 2nd Rate wrote:

Some are more talented than others. Kerley is obviously in the upper tier of talent given his range. He's one of the most versatile sprinters ever. Equating his talent to that of, say, that Dutch sprinter Martina, would be like saying that Steph Curry and Kemba Walker are both All-Star point guards so what's the difference?

"No sprinter is above suspicion." Uggh. No person, yourself included, is above suspicion. I do not assume that you are a fair-dealing person, sprintgeezer.

IMO there’s nothing obvious about it. He has not been great at 100 and 400 at the same time. The greatness is a training effect. Look at Gay: 9.69 and an early-season 44.89, that is phenomenal. Obvious upper-echelon talent? Hardly.

Totally agree about Faulkner, though!😂. Also, I think that Hemingway sucked.

Sprintgeezer, I hear you. But bad example... Gay is a convicted doper. IJS...

runnerexpert wrote:

rojo togo wrote:

He won bronze.

If you think Lamont the Italian is doped, you’ll need to prove it. (I think he’s probably doping, but w/out proof, there’s no there there.)

Kerley is obviously a remarkable talent.

I love DeGrasse, but how is it he can’t get his start right after all these years??

I wanted Su to medal, but some guys just never bring it on the biggest stage. Jacobs handled the moment, which is a triumph.

You don't need proof on this board

Correct. You can just spout unverified bullsh#t and start a thread. Always trumps facts and data...

That’s exactly why I used him rather than someone like WVN, Norman, Ackbar, etc—because he proves that such a combo can be achieved with other than incredible “talent”.

Also, nobody else at a high level has decided to make the switch. 100m guys aren’t going to do it, including Gay, Gatlin, or Bolt. It would take a 400 guy—and a “second-rate” 400m guy, at that. Neither WVN nor Ackbar nor any other 400m WR-holder is going to do it.

Not taking anything away from Kerley. He is as talented as any other top sprinter, more or less—and they are all in the “top tier” of talent.

The best 100/400 “talent” has to have been among the women in the 80’s, or even maybe Felix, who have put up amazing 100 and 409 times in the same meet.

lenovo1 wrote:

Didn't look at all jacked to me

What 100m final were you watching?

The fake Italian from El Paso, TX looked like he was showing up for a WWE Wrestling match.

Dutch Sprinter wrote:

Serious question, is Jacobs considered white? Trying to figure out his skin color. I would say yes.

He is also totally doping.

I found it weird that his Wikipedia page says: "Jacobs is the son of an Italian mother and an African American father."

Why not write just "American father?" Or else write "white Italian" since apparently race was important, not just nationality, for the father.

Didn't look jacked to me either, he's also not even lean for a sprinter.

If he's not italian than what is it? An alien?

How is he a fake Italian? He is ethnically Italian/African American. His mother is Italian. He moved to Italy at 18 months old. He still lives there. He speaks Italian in interviews. He's a dual citizen. He's a Texan as well, like Kerley. What more would someone have to do?

That was before strychnine testing.

jamin wrote:

lenovo1 wrote:

Didn't look at all jacked to me

What 100m final were you watching?

The fake Italian from El Paso, TX looked like he was showing up for a WWE Wrestling match.

https://media.usagag.com/uploads/600x400/2021/08/01/lamont-marcell-jacobs-fastest-man-alive-after-100m-olympics-stunner-1.jpg

Exactly what I thought when I watched. They can't even be bothered to try to hide it anymore.

Man you guys need to get to some track meets and watch some of the other events for a change. There are high school kids as big as these guys across the US, thousands of them, they can’t all be on drugs. This is what men who train for power and strength every day instead of running double digit mileage look like.

I’m not saying Jacobs isn’t on drugs, but you sure as heck can’t say one way or the other just by looking at him. If anything I’d say the fact that he’s not completely shredded tells you he’s not on the complete gamut of drugs currently available as he’s certainly carrying a few more pounds down the track than he should be. There’s size and then there’s body composition. Look at the body composition of some of these other athletes including certain darling 400 hurdlers and they are at ridiculous levels of body fat percentages, like under 4%. That’s not natural and whatever they’re taking to get that way is probably not even being tested for (yet). If your going to compare take a look at the gold standard of dopers for a minute:

https://runningmagazine.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Screen-Shot-2018-09-28-at-1.31.14-PM.png