Sopa de SabadelI wrote:
This year there are just too many runners that either will run a better TT or have a better kick.
2016 had better time trialers and better kickers than this year.
Kiprop, Souleiman and Makh were way better than Centro in a fast 1500 or at 800.
Willis, Manangoi and Iguider were better milers, too.
This field is weaker than 2016.
Moran alert wrote:
Is Centro going to wear super shoes or pre-super shoes. If he REALLY wants a new AR to be legit and undisputed, he has the opportunity to do so if he doesn't wear supershoes.
1. It's spelled "moron."
2. Shut up, moron.
Thizzlr on the Roof wrote:
anonymous wasp wrote:
Allow me to make a few points-
Centro is arguably the greatest American miler ever. To get the AR in the event takes the arguably out of it and just makes him the greatest we’ve ever had. Period. It’s the only thing he doesn’t have on his resume.
He’s in great shape after several years injured and this is likely his best/ last shot at the record.
He needs an Olympic tune up and he can do this without any travel or hassle.
I think this is a great move for him. I actually think with good pacing (which bowerman consistently nails) he has a tremendous shot at the record and I would wager he runs between 3:45 high and 3:47 mid.
^^This is it. He needs the record to separate himself from the American Miler Pack of Lagat, Webb, Ryun, Scott, Spivy, et al.
He’s on the wrong side of 3:30 although his 1500 pr is slightly faster than Webb... Still well behind Lagat.
Centro needs to mentally dial in his splits and goal time... He has a tendency to lock in the splits and time that get him right up to the goal without breaking through the barrier... 4:04 in high school and 13:00 last season. That’s basically 3:59 and 12:59... He needs to mentally focus, dial past the barrier and smash through the wall.
He can do it!
Many of these posters comments and attitudes show that they clearly have no idea what it's like to run and race at that level.
Central it's obviously does, his middle self in his man cave someday is going to look pretty fine - NCAA and American championships, , indoor world championship gold, Olympic gold, he doesn't worry about these clowns.
It would seem to the bowerman track Club and Jerry, figure Central is in great shape to break his own mile per hour and maybe give the American record a go, if he goes all out and goes for it, and tires and fall short, no matter, it's just a workout at heart.
Where can we watch it?
Sopa de SabadelI wrote:
The Dirty Duck wrote:
He's in most people's medal conversations now. We already knew that he's not allowed in yours unless he runs a fast time in a rabbited race.
There is literally 0 chance Centro will win or even medal. Even if he runs a 3:47 TT that is not gonna convert to a medal. I personally think he maybe could barely crack 3:50 in TT.
Medals will go as follows:
Tim
Jakob
Kerr.
Then the battle will be open for McSweyn, Lewandowski, Simotwo and Hocker.
After that we will see Lemi, Nuguse, Kipsang, Centro and Fontes.
1. Lay off the drugs, you sound stupid.
2. Stop using the word “literally” unless you plan on using it correctly.
3. Centro is one of the savviest racers there, to say he has a 0% chance is like saying there is a 0% chance the sun rises tomorrow.
reasonableperson001 wrote:
Moran alert wrote:
Is Centro going to wear super shoes or pre-super shoes. If he REALLY wants a new AR to be legit and undisputed, he has the opportunity to do so if he doesn't wear supershoes.
1. It's spelled "moron."
2. Shut up, moron.
You must be new here.
koyPond wrote:
Centro is one of the savviest racers there, to say he has a 0% chance is like saying there is a 0% chance the sun rises tomorrow.
There is a 100% chance that the sun will rise tomorrow. Are you saying there is a 100% chance that Centro will succeed?
Lasse Viren wrote:
Where can we watch it?
Type "Tracklandia" into the search bar on YouTube and it should be the first result.
St. Ignatius of Antioch wrote:
Swedish Pride wrote:
Can you recover in 9 days, yes of course. But should you have to, is another question.
Well, Coe went through all four rounds (final included) of the 800m (in which he won silver) in the 1984 OG before the three rounds (final included) of the 1500m (in which he won gold).
Date, Time, Round for the 800m, Los Angeles Olympic Games:
Friday, 3 August 1984 16:40 Round 1
Saturday, 4 August 1984 17:40 Quarterfinals
Sunday, 5 August 1984 18:05 Semifinals
Monday, 6 August 1984 17:50 Final
Date, Time, Round for the 1500m, Los Angeles Olympic Games:
Thursday, 9 August 1984 16:15 Round 1
Friday, 10 August 1984 17:40 Semifinals
Saturday, 11 August 1984 18:55 Final
Here is the current schedule for the 2021 Tokyo Olympic Games:
Start Time Location Event Status
Tue, 3 Aug
9:05 Olympic Stadium - Track
Men's 1500m Round 1 - Heat 1
Tue, 3 Aug
9:16 Olympic Stadium - Track
Men's 1500m Round 1 - Heat 2
Tue, 3 Aug
9:27 Olympic Stadium - Track
Men's 1500m Round 1 - Heat 3
__________________________________
Thu, 5 Aug
20:00 Olympic Stadium - Track
Men's 1500m Semi-Final 1
Thu, 5 Aug
20:10 Olympic Stadium - Track
Men's 1500m Semi-Final 2
__________________________________
Sat, 7 Aug
20:40 Olympic Stadium - Track
Men's 1500m Final
That provides some perspective.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletics_at_the_1984_Summer_Olympics_–_Men%27s_800_metreshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletics_at_the_1984_Summer_Olympics_–_Men%27s_1500_metreshttps://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/olympic-games/en/results/athletics/event-schedule-men-s-1500m.htm
But that schedule might have been too much for Joaquim Cruz who, though he won the 800m gold medal, advanced only as far as the semifinal round of the 1500m, failing to qualify for the 1500m final. As I remember, he reportedly had a cold. And he got into an imbroglio after expressing doping suspicions about FloJo and Jackie Joyner-Kersee that probably upset him. It’s unclear that all that racing was too much for him, but it might have been, even if not for Coe.
michimanx wrote:
World of Wet Pets?
LappedMiler wrote:
The wind prediction for this evening is 7 to 9 mph from the north-northwest, according to the National Weather Service. Here's the track, from google maps:
https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4850421,-122.7670864,233m/data=!3m1!1e3The straightaways are pretty much due east-west, so even if a breeze from the NNW is a noticeable, it won't be in the runners' faces much.
Still, 7 to 9 isn't perfectly calm, so it could eat into any attempt to set a record.
But the conditions overall do seem pretty good.
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That post, about which I posted again when I realized the race would be Saturday night, not Friday night, isn't quite applicable now. But here are recent National Weather Service predictions, from nearby, but not from Jesuit HS:
Location: Lat: 45.54765°N, Lon: 122.95568°W (10 miles NW of the track)
Current conditions:
86 degrees F
30 degrees C
Humidity 40%
Wind Speed NW 16 MPH
Barometer 30.0 in (1015.92 mb)
Dewpoint 59°F (15°C)
Visibility 10.00 mi
Last update 24 Jul, 06:55 PM PDT
Future conditions:
Tonight: Clear, with a low around 59. West northwest wind 5 to 13 mph, with gusts as high as 20 mph.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Another location in the same area:
Location: Lat: 45.59578°N, Lon: 122.60917°W (almost 11 miles NE of the track)
Current conditions:
88 deg F
31 deg C
Humidity 35%
Wind Speed NW 14 MPH
Barometer 29.98 in (1015.24 mb)
Dewpoint 57°F (14°C)
Visibility 10.00 mi
Last update 24 Jul, 06:55 PM PDT
I haven't spent the time searching for closer reporting site on the weather.gov site...and conditions can vary locally...but it looks like the temperature will be a bit on the warm side, and the wind might be a negative factor. The wundermap reporting stations in the area show less wind -- either no wind or else between 5 and 10 mph. It will still be a bit warm, but cooler by a few degrees from what the National Weather Service says, and temps will continue to drop, anyway, as the sun gets lower in the sky.
So, fingers crossed, and maybe things will be OK for Centro, who is more than familiar with running in similar conditions, and worse.
Why would Cruz or anyone else express doping suspicions about Flojo in 1984? 1988, eminently possible. In 1984, she was not that dominant later athlete, totally under the radar.
Look at all the hype over a stupid non-race.
In the meantime US swimmers won 6 medals on the first night of finals. Suck on it, distance runners. You won't win half that amount in the whole Olympics.
I'm stumped wrote:
Look at all the hype over a stupid non-race.
In the meantime US swimmers won 6 medals on the first night of finals. Suck on it, distance runners. You won't win half that amount in the whole Olympics.
lol, thx for the bump!
Is there a way to watch?
reasonableperson001 wrote:
Moran alert wrote:
Is Centro going to wear super shoes or pre-super shoes. If he REALLY wants a new AR to be legit and undisputed, he has the opportunity to do so if he doesn't wear supershoes.
1. It's spelled "moron."
2. Shut up, moron.
Whoosh. You must be new here, moran.
Yeah, koyPond must be new here, not knowing how we morans discus things on LRC.
Hey, koyPond, someone is bound to misspell "Centrowitz". Please correct the error in a post, and if you're up to the challenge, do call the offending person a moran.
Damn...sorry about that, koyPond. It was reasonableperson001, not you, who showed the gang how smart he or she is with the spelling lesson. I'm such a moran.
I think he's realizing a sit and kick isn't going to work and he's preparing himself to not sit and kick.
I'm stumped wrote:
Look at all the hype over a stupid non-race.
In the meantime US swimmers won 6 medals on the first night of finals. Suck on it, distance runners. You won't win half that amount in the whole Olympics.
You’re comparing all swim events, including relays, to just distance running? Doesn’t seem like a very fair argument.
Btw, why attack another US sport? You’re a weirdo.
Got it, thanks!