king999 wrote:
I really do not think the field, all of which rop 4 guys have run 3:30.00 or better are planning for Matt Centrowitz, at all.
Not a knock, just most likely a fact, no matter what he runs tonite. If he runs really fast he becomes one of several who have run 3:47.5 mile euiv . or faster that would figure to make the final
I would suspect they have at least discussed the defending Gold Medalist who has basically run a PERFECT race in every global final he's been in.
3:48.75
Centro fails to go sub-3:50 and everybody goes home DEVASTATED.
One drawback to doing a hard mile isn’t the recovery.
The question is will he back off of training this week to be fresh for this race.
If he’s training through this week, it will be hard to run a fast mile.
If he’s backing off this week, it will be hard to maintain fitness through Aug 7th.
My guess is he probably did a fairly hard workout on Tuesday and something light on Thursday and hasn’t backed off too much going into tonight. And he may do a workout after the race.
I'm actually getting excited for this event, I'm going to stay up past midnight to watch what I hope is a good stream. I'm rooting for Centro...Webb has held the AR long enough, time for a new king.
Oh Please wrote:
I'm actually getting excited for this event, I'm going to stay up past midnight to watch what I hope is a good stream. I'm rooting for Centro...Webb has held the AR long enough, time for a new king.
Also, I believe Webb's Sub 3:47 is still the fastest mile run since 2007. Pretty cool if he can run the fastest mile of the last 15 years I think ...
Spainflyer wrote:
te5n1k wrote: i think the bigger issue would be jet lag in tokyo or other traveling issues since he is showing up so late.
Lots of talk and different opinions here about fatigue, recovery and time frame factors between tonight’s mile record attempt and the Olympic 1500. Not much at all about jet lag and how it might affect Centro. Only te5n1k back on page 5.
When is he leaving for the Far East? He doesn’t have to go directly to Tokyo – better if he does not, but recovers and trains somewhere in the Tokyo time zone.
But the shortest air travel Portland to Tokyo is just under 14 hours on Air Canada, via Vancouver. Other routings are 16 hours, and up. And remember the arduous entry procedures for Japan – see NPR article where it took accredited journalists four hours just to clear the Tokyo airport.
And, the time difference between Oregon and Japan is 16 hours and he loses a day in transit (crosses international date line).
Now, if this isn’t a recipe for jet lag, I don’t know what is (see film “Lost In Translation”).
My longest flights have been 12 and 13 hours, and they knocked me out, even with Business Class, lie-flat seats, plenty of sleep, etc.
Yes, Centro is young and obviously very fit, but I hope he and coach J have considered this factor carefully in his plans.
I wish him good luck tonight!!
Uncle Phil's private jets.
birdbeard2 wrote:
Jakob C. Hocker wrote:
In the end of the day, would it matter to him what people think of him? None of those people will be in the stands in Tokyo booing or jeering him if he's unsuccessful in his AR pursuit.
To be fair, I think Centrowitz has regularly shown that he cares very, very much what people think of him, including random people on social media and the internet.
He's also shown for around 10 years, that he also doesn't care for unimportant opinions.
Oh Please wrote:
Oh Please wrote:
I'm actually getting excited for this event, I'm going to stay up past midnight to watch what I hope is a good stream. I'm rooting for Centro...Webb has held the AR long enough, time for a new king.
Also, I believe Webb's Sub 3:47 is still the fastest mile run since 2007. Pretty cool if he can run the fastest mile of the last 15 years I think ...
Which doesn't mean much since only Americans and Brits have mile races.
And Webb's AR converts to 3:30 flat, so it's actually kinda soft, in today's standards.
I thought about this TT awhile and it really does not make much sense:
Why telegraph your potential to your upcoming Olympic competitors?
Why risk injury pushing yourself to the limit?
Here’s a somewhat nefarious possibility: Why not mislead everyone – in other words deliberately choke at the TT? Let’s say Matt runs 3:52ish. Afterwards, many would dismiss him as an Olympic medalist hopeful. That could set up a strategic opportunity to unleash his true potential during the Olympic finals. Moreover, it might help reduce unwanted stress as the reigning Olympic 1500m champion.
Are there risks? Sure, but unlike the Olympics, the AR will always be there for the taking.
You know Centro... just when I think you couldnt possible be any dumber...you go and do something like this...
AND Totally redeem yourself!
Lets go baby!!!
Is Centro going to wear super shoes or pre-super shoes. If he REALLY wants a new AR to be legit and undisputed, he has the opportunity to do so if he doesn't wear supershoes.
Sneaky wrote:
Why telegraph your potential to your upcoming Olympic competitors?
Why risk injury pushing yourself to the limit?
Telegraph your potential?
Let’s not over complicate this. It’s a foot race. Everyone is going to position themselves to conserve energy and then kick like hell to win. Fast pace or otherwise.
No one is going to change their approach based on how Centro runs tonight.
I have never heard of anyone injuring themselves trying to run a mile PR.
I have seen people injure themselves training too hard, though.
Runningart2004 wrote:
7 athletes have run 3:30.xx or better in 2021.
If he gets the record he'll be in the medal conversation.
Alan
He's in most people's medal conversations now. We already knew that he's not allowed in yours unless he runs a fast time in a rabbited race.
He raced (albeit an 800) exactly two weeks before his Rio 1500 Final. Tonight is two weeks before the Tokyo final.
Will Shelby H be there in person to root for or against him?
Entro is an A-hoke and all beta. An Olympic champion should never respond to anyone that isn't also an Olympic champion on social media. First time you do you become worthless.
Hot (usual) but (unusually) windy in Portland today and the wind does not look like it's dying down as the sun sets today which is a bummer. If I had sub 3.50 hopes I would be revising them slightly. Does anyone know if they hooked up the wavelight?
justaquestion wrote:
Will Shelby H be there in person to root for or against him?
Or just root him? Probably afterwards. On a bed of tacos.