The food truck also had a avocado special that day.
The food truck also had a avocado special that day.
Why not both inject nandrolone and and take it in orally through food or whatever? The metabolites from the orally ingested nandrolone will mask the injected's in the 19-NA/19-NE ratio test.
Armstronglivs wrote:
rekrunner wrote:
Some facts have been made public.
But not the "relevant" ones? Are you having a stroke?
Some, but not all, relevant ones have been made public.
Refer to my list of questions for an indication of the relevant facts missing.
No I’m not having a stroke.
jeff tallon wrote:
Theres no such thing as an "EPO era". The EPO era is still ongoing,and track and field is dirtier than it has ever been.Rife with EPO,blood doping,steroids,HGH and peptides,often in unhealthy dangerous cocktails.Other sports such as weightlifting,cycling, tennis ,power lifting the various football codes,rowing,kayaking,basketball,baseball and swimming are also very bad,some of those sports being worse than others.
Obviously. To be more specific, I refer to the "EPO era" as the period before EPO testing was reliable.
Also, the burrito never existed. It’s 100% confabulation.
It’s main purpose was to be something that media outlets could put in their headlines to take the sting off the plain truth that Shelby Houlihan got caught with the same prohibited PED metabolites as 30-odd dirty doping Kenyans.
avenue A wrote:
Also, the burrito never existed. It’s 100% confabulation.
It’s main purpose was to be something that media outlets could put in their headlines to take the sting off the plain truth that Shelby Houlihan got caught with the same prohibited PED metabolites as 30-odd dirty doping Kenyans.
I understand the burrito existed but it took a truck to remove it.
Marc Scott has tested positive for nandrolone too. Watch this space...
uhohbowerman wrote:
Marc Scott has tested positive for nandrolone too. Watch this space...
Shelburrito queen of hearts removed from the bottom collapses the whole tower of cards?
bannned i got wrote:
wejo wrote:
It's been acknowledged that the nandrolone Shelby took wasn't injected. Others have said it would be foolish to take it orally as the affects would be minimal.
So for those of you who think Shelby was doping how do you think it got in her system? What was she doing?
And also why would 30 Kenyans test positive for Nandrolone
https://twitter.com/jamie_langley1/status/1405443374237224960?s=21if it's not helpful to distance runners?
I'm assuming some people are in the camp it was in her system, its' a banned substance they don't care why, but I'm posing the questions to people who think she was doping.
i would think with the private schooling and then expensive ivy education you guys would be smarter than you are
she got busted for nadrolone.....but there are lots of derivatives of that synthetic adrogen
Nandrolone is the parent compound of a large group of AAS. Notable examples include the non-17α-alkylated trenbolone and the 17α-alkylated ethylestrenol (ethylnandrol) and metribolone (R-1881), as well as the 17α-alkylated designer steroids norboletone and tetrahydrogestrinone (THG). The following is list of derivatives of nandrolone that have been developed as AAS:[7]
Non-17α-alkylated derivatives
Marketed
Bolandiol (19-nor-4-androstenediol)
Norclostebol (4-chloro-19-NT)
Oxabolone (4-hydroxy-19-NT)
Trenbolone (δ9,11-19-NT)
Never marketed
7α-Methyl-19-nor-4-androstenedione (MENT dione, trestione)
11β-Methyl-19-nortestosterone (11β-MNT; 11β-methyl-19-NT)
19-Nor-5-androstenediol
19-Nor-5-androstenedione
Bolandione (19-nor-4-androstenedione)
Dienedione (δ9-19-nor-4-androstenedione)
Dienolone (δ9-19-NT)
Dimethandrolone (7α,11β-dimethyl-19-NT)
Methoxydienone (18-methyl-δ2,5(10)-19-NEA 3β-methyl ether)
Trestolone (MENT; 7α-methyl-19-NT)
17α-Alkylated derivatives
Marketed
Ethylestrenol (ethylnandrol; 3-deketo-17α-ethyl-19-NT)
Mibolerone (7α,17α-dimethyl-19-NT)
Norethandrolone (17α-ethyl-19-NT)
Normethandrone (methylestrenolone; 17α-methyl-19-NT)
Propetandrol (17α-ethyl-19-NT 3β-propionate)
Never marketed
Bolenol (3-deketo-17α-ethyl-19-nor-5-androstenediol)
Dimethyltrienolone (7α,17α-dimethyl-δ9,11-19-NT)
Ethyldienolone (17α-ethyl-δ9-19-NT)
Methyldienolone (17α-methyl-δ9-19-NT)
Methylhydroxynandrolone (MOHN, MHN; 4-hydroxy-17α-methyl-19-NT)
Metribolone (methyltrienolone, R-1881; 17α-methyl-δ9,11-19-NT)
Norboletone (17α-ethyl-18-methyl-19-NT)
Tetrahydrogestrinone (THG; 17α-ethyl-18-methyl-δ9,11-19-NT)
my guess is she was on THG, aka the clear, and the metabolites break down to show "nandrolone". according to the chemist who created it, only two vial drops under the tongue was more than sufficient. maybe she used too much on accident.
THG, also known as 17α-ethyl-18-methyl-δ9,11-19-nortestosterone or as 17α-ethyl-18-methylestra-4,9,11-trien-17β-ol-3-one, is a synthetic estrane steroid and a 17α-alkylated derivative of nandrolone (19-nortestosterone). It is a modification of gestrinone (17α-ethynyl-18-methyl-19-nor-δ9,11-testosterone) in which the ethynyl group has been hydrogenated into an ethyl group, thereby converting the steroid from a norethisterone (17α-ethynyl-19-nortestosterone) derivative with weak AR activity into a norethandrolone (17α-ethyl-19-nortestosterone) derivative with powerful AR activity. THG is closely related to RU-2309 (the 17α-methyl variant), trenbolone (δ9,11-19-nortestosterone), metribolone (17α-methyl-δ9,11-19-nortestosterone), and norboletone (17α-ethyl-18-methyl-19-nortestosterone).
not that hard to figure out. no one is using old school nandrolone, they are using new stat of the art derivatives of nandrolone. just like how you bone heads cant figure out why NOP was using Macro doses of vit D and l-carnitine and thyroid TUEs.....
macro doses of vit d and l-carnitine infusions MAXIMIZE micro dosing of andrgens, thyroid meds help keep the thyroid in check while using EPO and HGH and IGF-lr3
only way big names get busted in this day and age is sabotage. gatlin was ducking powell so nike punished him. tyson gay got busted cause he was an adidas guy, now shelby got busted cause al sal was the anonymous whistleblower....he knows when and what she would be taking during the off season base phase cause its the same sh*t he was using. not that hard to see the picture
This is a very well informed post. He believed that Houlihan was using Tetrahydrogestrinone. More importantly he explains why this would be used in conjunction with macro doses of Vit. D, I-carnitine and those thyroid TUes that Dr. Brown was famous for. These are used to maximize steroid microdosing and facilitate HGH and EPO use. So I woould say that this is what the NOP/BTC training groups were doing and what BTC is still doing.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
The two scenarios are that she really did eat a tainted burrito or that she was cheating. Are you asking for details as to how she actually cheated?
Are there not more possible scenarios, like someone spiking her drink the previous day?