NZ has done it. Named biological MALE Hubbard to Women's Olympic Lifting Team.

RunRagged wrote:

lke_4:25 wrote:

What till you’re ignorant self realizes trans athletes have been allowed to compete in the Olympics in either gender for 17 years

Sorry, but what comes off as "ignorant" here is the claim you've made.

The IOC rules for transgender participation put in place in 2004 said males who identify as women could compete in women's Olympic events so long as they previously had genital surgery involving complete removal of their testicles. Also, such athletes had to take cross-sex hormones for "an appropriate time" prior to participating in women's events, which the IOC back then suggested should be for two years.

Since the vast majority - 95% - of males who "identify as" women nowadays do not have genital surgery & have no wish to lose their balls, it turned out that no trans-identified male athletes elected to compete under the IOC's 2004 policy.

In November 2015, the IOC instituted a new policy that said males who identify as women could compete in women's events whilst keeping their balls intact. Under the new rules, all such athletes have to do is meet the following criteria:

1) "Declare" that they have a "female gender identity" & agree that said "declaration cannot be changed, for sporting purposes, for a minimum of four years." (Note that the four years don't have to be consecutive, & male athletes' declaration of a "female gender identity" need be "for sporting purposes" only. Meaning in all other areas of life, athletes such as Hubbard can "identify as" their actual sex & live like average bog-standard blokes yet still compete in female sports at the Olympics.)

2. Demonstrate that their serum testosterone level has been below 10 nmol/L for at least 12 months prior to participating in women's events.

A testosterone level of 10 nmol/L is still in the normal range for males. Adult males are considered to have low T only if it's below 8 nmol/L.

A testosterone level of 10 nmol/L is also many, many times the normal range for women. The normal adult female range for testosterone is 0.12 to 1.8 nmol/L - or according to some sources, perhaps as high as 2.4 nmol/L.

Since Hubbard is 43 & quite chubby & flabby, Hubbard could easily have a serum T level under 10 nmol/L naturally.

To compete in women's events in the Olympics, there's no requirement that Hubbard or other male athletes declaring a "female gender identity" take a T-suppressant such as Spirolactone or that they take take estradiol - or any other female hormones - in order to become pharmaceutically "feminized." Just being able to document that their T has been at the low end of the normal male range for 12 months is sufficient. Making any effort to try to mimic a female hormone profile is not necessary. Coz apparently the committee who came up with the current IOC policy ascribe to the misogynistic, wrongheaded idea that women are just men with lower T - & the misandrist idea that any man with T below 10 nmol/L for any reason is basically the same as a woman.

Not coincidentally, the IOC committee that came up with the current policy in late 2015 consisted of 20 people, 16 of whom happened to have XY chromosomes & only 4 of whom happened to have XX ones. The only people the committee consulted were trans activists, & the only "scientific evidence" it considered was a paper documenting that 8 male trans-identified runners self-reported that they'd become slower after they declared they "identify as" female & began taking drugs to lower their T. In the case of one of the runners, the before "transition" & after "transition" running times that were compared were 29 years apart.

https://stillmed.olympic.org/Documents/Commissions_PDFfiles/Medical_commission/2015-11_ioc_consensus_meeting_on_sex_reassignment_and_hyperandrogenism-en.pdf

Since the 2016 summer Olympics took place only a little more than 8 months after the IOC changed the rules, there wasn't enough time for any male trans-identified athletes to meet the criteria for documenting & demonstrating that their T was kept below the 10 nmol/L limit for 12 months in order to become eligible for women's events in Rio.

So no, contrary to what you claim, athletes like Hubbard have not been allowed to compete, nor have they competed, in the sex category of their choosing for 17 years now. The upcoming Games will be the very first Olympics ever in which trans-identified males with intact balls & dicks will have a chance to compete in women's events just by "declaring" that they have "a female gender identity for sporting purposes" & showing that their T has been in the lower end of the normal male range for just 12 months.