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it sounds as if you only expect benefit from this clear workout is if he won all 3 races? what if he ran 1:49 for the win, 1:50 for the win, 1:46 for second? Would that be a 'silly' workout? It's very odd to me that you see the sole purpose of an elite miler running 3x800 short recovery to be an "ego boost"

rojo wrote:

Ok. Can we admit the super spikes are crazy? Either that or Ben Thomas is a mid-d GOD?

A redshirt senior that I've barely heard of that ran the 10,000 at the Pac 12 meet a few weeks - the only time he's ever run the pac-12 meet in track during his Oregon career - just ran 3:37?

CONGRATS to him. He's going to the Trials but didn't even make it to NCAAs. Crazy good. Anyone know why he ran the 10k at conference if he was going for the 1500?

That being said. I'm getting less and less impressed by Kessler's 3:34 every minute.

Imagine being the clown that is less impressed by a high schooler running 3:34 because a redshirt senior in college ran a 3:37.

formerucla wrote:

it sounds as if you only expect benefit from this clear workout is if he won all 3 races? what if he ran 1:49 for the win, 1:50 for the win, 1:46 for second? Would that be a 'silly' workout? It's very odd to me that you see the sole purpose of an elite miler running 3x800 short recovery to be an "ego boost"

I think this guy has a weird axe to grind against Centro and/or Schumacher.

He's probably upset that Centro's been running well, and that most of Schumacher's athletes are rounding into form nicely for the trials. Seems like a hater.

formerucla wrote:

it sounds as if you only expect benefit from this clear workout is if he won all 3 races? what if he ran 1:49 for the win, 1:50 for the win, 1:46 for second? Would that be a 'silly' workout? It's very odd to me that you see the sole purpose of an elite miler running 3x800 short recovery to be an "ego boost"

It was given to him as a workout, he thought he was so fit that he would win them all. Two separate issues; both were misguided in their thinking. It's a stupid workout 2 weeks out. I'd bet you $1,000 right now that if you asked Jerry or Centro if it was a mistake that they would say that it was. Him thinking he was going to win is relevant only in further confirming that he's a tool.

Quick takes.

3x800m is a tried and proven solid workout leading into peak 1500m season. Yeah it's totally unnecessary to do during heats/races, but no question it was entertaining. It's the 2nd or 3rd most interesting point of the night. Furthermore, the times he ran were very impressive given the 800m ability I thought he had right now. I was optimistic for Centro after the 3:35 and I'd say this 800m is an improvement. I think he'd have less to gain than what he could lose by running a good 1500m than a bad one. This 3x800m was certainly also low risk from possibly negatively affecting his confidence.

The difference in direction BTC and brooks beasts have taken the last few weeks have been noteworthy.

The 800m will he one of the more fascinating events of the Olympics. If you picked your 4 favorites to win, i might bet that someone other than those four would win.

2nd fastest high school 800m in last 25 years, only behind Brazier (by 0.1 sec.) Wild. Academics aside, is Stanford a great school for him running wise? (Whether it is or not, id pick Stanford as well)

I'm less enthused by Kerrs 3:31 than the general audience here. It is certainly a great time and a step further for him. He has always been a frontrunner though and I dont know how much this performance changes my thoughts on how I think he'd do in a championship race. I guess it makes me actually think about how he'd do in a championship race, but I dont take much more away than that, except my previous point that brooks beasts have come out of nowhere to have a great season so far.

D3 guy running 13:53 winning a heat has PRd by well over a minute this spring? Been running with roots running? Another pat on the back for coach Hansen.

I dont know where Spencer brown goes, but as long as he is competing in these meets, he adds value to a pro running team id think. Disregarding his own results, has he been a part of the rest of brooks beasts success this spring? The personality, interesting exposure for the team, etc. can go a long way for overall team morale and the mental wellbeing of the team during the hardest training blocks. He feels a bit like the Rudy of professional running, and thats pretty awesome for everyone close to it.

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Schumacher's athletes are rounding into form nicely for the trials.

LMAO!

You actually typed that with a straight face too didn't you.

rojo wrote:

wannabepro25 wrote:

Impressive run from Oregon’s Jack Yearian. He punched his ticket to the Olympic trials with his 3:37 1500m.

Ok. Can we admit the super spikes are crazy? Either that or Ben Thomas is a mid-d GOD?

A redshirt senior that I've barely heard of that ran the 10,000 at the Pac 12 meet a few weeks - the only time he's ever run the pac-12 meet in track during his Oregon career - just ran 3:37?

CONGRATS to him. He's going to the Trials but didn't even make it to NCAAs. Crazy good. Anyone know why he ran the 10k at conference if he was going for the 1500?

That being said. I'm getting less and less impressed by Kessler's 3:34 every minute.

This is Yearian's fifth 1500 of the season. Presumably he had been racing in the same spikes he wore tonight, and he never ran anywhere near as fast as he did tonight.

Don't know why he ran the 10,000 at PAC12s, but he ran the 1500 at west regionals, made it out of the prelims, and was leading his quarterfinal heat until the last lap, had nothing in the last 100m

i would absolutely lovvvvveeee to take this bet. im good for it, but hey this is an anonymous running forum. if we can make this happen and make this bet official ill pay up.

find me a way to ask centro if this "workout" was a mistake, and i bet he would say it was a solid day. not far fetched, centro seems to be somewhat interactive with fans (compared to other runners)

TrackTown wrote:

` wrote:

Schumacher's athletes are rounding into form nicely for the trials.

LMAO!

You actually typed that with a straight face too didn't you.

Ah, so you're a Jerry hater. I've found the problem.

Fisher, Kincaid, Centro, Ahmed, Scott, Bartelsmeyer, Lomong (might have missed someone) are all looking excellent. Then for the women you've got Stafford, Houlihan, and Cranny running very well currently.

I just don't get the Jerry hate. They are the best team in the US BY FAR. The majority of his athletes are running well CURRENTLY, and hopefully those coming off of altitude fatigue will be ready for the trials.

Everyone in this thread can see that you are irrational.

Hejendo76 wrote:

anyone know why he ran it 3 times. Basically a 3x800 workout in 1:50s w 10 mins rest

no i think he was going after the OT qualifer, using the 1st 2 heats as warm ups. didnt work out for him oh well.

jesus, how do some of you get through a day??? do people help you get dressed and pack your lunch still?

formerucla wrote:

i would absolutely lovvvvveeee to take this bet. im good for it, but hey this is an anonymous running forum. if we can make this happen and make this bet official ill pay up.

find me a way to ask centro if this "workout" was a mistake, and i bet he would say it was a solid day. not far fetched, centro seems to be somewhat interactive with fans (compared to other runners)

You are delusional, there is no chance he would say that his last 1:53 was a solid day, in fact he said just the opposite at the track. He was not happy! He also posted his workout on his Instagram. Note the red emoji after the 1:53.

You lose.

Leave your contact info so I can collect.

TrackTown wrote:

formerucla wrote:

it sounds as if you only expect benefit from this clear workout is if he won all 3 races? what if he ran 1:49 for the win, 1:50 for the win, 1:46 for second? Would that be a 'silly' workout? It's very odd to me that you see the sole purpose of an elite miler running 3x800 short recovery to be an "ego boost"

It was given to him as a workout, he thought he was so fit that he would win them all. Two separate issues; both were misguided in their thinking. It's a stupid workout 2 weeks out. I'd bet you $1,000 right now that if you asked Jerry or Centro if it was a mistake that they would say that it was. Him thinking he was going to win is relevant only in further confirming that he's a tool.

Yeah such a mistake that he posted about it on his Instagram. Definitely seems like he regrets this workout.......moran

Aha I love how we posted the same link with opposite conclusions. I knew as soon as I saw the emoji you would say that :).

Anyway, you've jumped the shark with this post pal.

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TrackTown wrote:

It was given to him as a workout, he thought he was so fit that he would win them all. Two separate issues; both were misguided in their thinking. It's a stupid workout 2 weeks out. I'd bet you $1,000 right now that if you asked Jerry or Centro if it was a mistake that they would say that it was. Him thinking he was going to win is relevant only in further confirming that he's a tool.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPr4yGQFjwM/

Yeah such a mistake that he posted about it on his Instagram. Definitely seems like he regrets this workout.......moran

being upset with a public workout = mistake?? if i ever had a bad workout it's a learning experience on what i need to work on, and maybe mr. jerry wanted to see what centro needs to work on 2 weeks before the trials

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Aha I love how we posted the same link with opposite conclusions. I knew as soon as I saw the emoji you would say that :).

Anyway, you've jumped the shark with this post pal.

My conclusion came from HIS WORDS. He was not happy.

You are wrong. Deal with it. You are the one that decided to make an issue of it and argue with me. I know what he said and even if it wasn't a stupid workout, he was not able to execute it as they planned and it did nothing to prepare him for the trials. It failed. Stop being a moron. He is not a huge IG poser but he did so to get out in front of it, like lipstick on a pig. He knows it sucked as indicated by the emoji. You know I'm right, you just can't let it go.

Yep, that seems totally reasonable. You are correct.

duck sauce wrote:

This is Yearian's fifth 1500 of the season. Presumably he had been racing in the same spikes he wore tonight, and he never ran anywhere near as fast as he did tonight.

Don't know why he ran the 10,000 at PAC12s, but he ran the 1500 at west regionals, made it out of the prelims, and was leading his quarterfinal heat until the last lap, had nothing in the last 100m

Maybe he was peaking for the trials? Maybe he thought he wouldn't be a factor in the 1500 at NCAAs/his team would be taking first anyway, and he would rather look back at his running career and say he made it to the Olympic Trials as opposed to NCAAs? If he wasn't sharp, maybe he thought the 10k would be better for him. Still, doesn't make a ton of sense because he could've gone for the standard at Pac12s or something.