The veteran, Business man, Endurance athlete, weightlifter, and recently sub 3 marathoner has been accepted into this years Leadville 100 ultra marathon.
Nick will be training this summer in preparation for the race in august. He is recently coming off of a successful Ironman training period.
What is your prediction?
DNF at best.
i wouldnt call his ironman prep successful. he was training for a sub 10 full IM and he was just under a 5.5 hr half. i do envy his durability and he has incredible work ethic. dont think he has ever missed a run in the year or so i have been casually following his training. if he can carry over that consistency to higher mileage then i think he will definitely finish and possibly with a decent time, but with his mass he will surely struggle over 100 miles up elevation he has never experienced in altitude hes not used to.
tim roth wrote:
recently sub 3 marathoner
I'm skeptical of this claim. Unless he's done it again very recently, the one he did late last year was some custom event he set up himself. Do it in an actual race if you want it to count.
he was going to run the sun marathon (a bq official race) and it went on as scheduled, but he dropped out. meanwhile hunter mcintyre trained 3-4 weeks for a sub 3 marathon, asked to be allowed in nicks private event (and was denied) then went onto run 2:55 or something at the sun marathon that nick was supposed to run. nick trained for over a year and ran like 2:57 or something.
He doesn’t make it over Hope Pass On the way back. He will attempt to rely on all his nutrition products for fuel and will struggle on the trails. He will make basic rookie errors along the way and his camera crew will get lost trying to get to different aid stations. His pacers will lack proper respect for the required fitness on their end and the “Team Bare” requirement of carrying a camera to film his charade will end up in a disaster. If, by some minor miracle, he makes it back to twin Lakes the second time before the cut off, he’ll suffer from hypothermia due to his propensity for not wearing anything but a pair of shorts when he races. That sh!t might work in Austin, but it doesn’t cut it in the mountains of Leadville. He will be transported out of pipe line in the back of a gator.
Yeah I don’t think this ends well.
I hope he reads this and proves me wrong.
There is no way he runs Leadville. Pipe dream.
I just recall his 5km time trial on the track where he stopped like 80m short. I assume following his gps over the track?
Any claim is a wild card
"Sub 3" hmm wrote:
tim roth wrote:
recently sub 3 marathoner
I'm skeptical of this claim. Unless he's done it again very recently, the one he did late last year was some custom event he set up himself. Do it in an actual race if you want it to count.
Yep, he failed repeatedly in real races so he made up a fake event and POOF he runs sub-3. Fake run, fake time. PR is 3:24 at Austin. He also failed to qualify for Boston AGAIN. He is just giving up and moving on to something else to draw attention away from his failures.
Yawn, move on folks, nothing to see here.
Leadville has an over 50% dnf rate for a reason. It isn’t likely he will finish if he even starts.
Hope Pass Is Calling wrote:
He doesn’t make it over Hope Pass On the way back. He will attempt to rely on all his nutrition products for fuel and will struggle on the trails. He will make basic rookie errors along the way and his camera crew will get lost trying to get to different aid stations. His pacers will lack proper respect for the required fitness on their end and the “Team Bare” requirement of carrying a camera to film his charade will end up in a disaster. If, by some minor miracle, he makes it back to twin Lakes the second time before the cut off, he’ll suffer from hypothermia due to his propensity for not wearing anything but a pair of shorts when he races. That sh!t might work in Austin, but it doesn’t cut it in the mountains of Leadville. He will be transported out of pipe line in the back of a gator.
Sounds about right.
These kind of guys have no idea what they are getting into. 100 miles is a long way and the air is thin in Leadville.
"Sub 3" hmm wrote:
tim roth wrote:
recently sub 3 marathoner
I'm skeptical of this claim. Unless he's done it again very recently, the one he did late last year was some custom event he set up himself. Do it in an actual race if you want it to count.
This! He likely had custom bottles/nutrition handed to him off a bike, and very little in-race footage made it to his recap. I want to see it in a real race under the same conditions the rest of us hobby joggers suffer through. Even in his Challenge Cancun video he has essentially a follow vehicle and can be seen drinking a random bottle of something after he dropped his bottle.
te5n1k wrote:
i wouldnt call his ironman prep successful. he was training for a sub 10 full IM and he was just under a 5.5 hr half. i do envy his durability and he has incredible work ethic. dont think he has ever missed a run in the year or so i have been casually following his training. if he can carry over that consistency to higher mileage then i think he will definitely finish and possibly with a decent time, but with his mass he will surely struggle over 100 miles up elevation he has never experienced in altitude he's not used to.
I share a similar opinion... I follow casually. I admire the work he puts in. And the quality of the videos are of course excellent. I do think the weather in Cancun was probably killer, and it was a bit of a pivot, but not as convincing as you'd have hoped.
Having said that, Leadville is a different beast. He hasn't a long time (mid-late August? 10-12 weeks roughly?) to make sure he gets altitude work in. He needs to be at least as well informed on the race as he has been for triathlon with his athlete coach. To be fair, she was excellent for him. Can he get (has he maybe already got) speaking to and working with someone who is running too? I think he can finish if he understands slow pacing and just aims to finish. He has shown he can plug away in an IM for 11ish hours, so with training and the correct adjustment of intensity, he can finish. BUT he really, really, needs some knowledgeable help.
As for the camera crew, they'll have drones and small cameras - maybe camp out in places. That'll not be an issue for them - it may be for him, if he can't ignore them.
te5n1k wrote:
he was going to run the sun marathon (a bq official race) and it went on as scheduled, but he dropped out. meanwhile hunter mcintyre trained 3-4 weeks for a sub 3 marathon, asked to be allowed in nicks private event (and was denied) then went onto run 2:55 or something at the sun marathon that nick was supposed to run. nick trained for over a year and ran like 2:57 or something.
It was a very downhill marathon that McIntyre ran,if you watch the you tune of it all you can see is the downhill angle all the way,must have saved him at least 30 mins.
te5n1k wrote:
meanwhile hunter mcintyre trained 3-4 weeks for a sub 3 marathon, asked to be allowed in nicks private event (and was denied) then went onto run 2:55 or something at the sun marathon
I don't have any idea who this Hunter McIntyre is but he did not run the Sun Marathon. In fact, I can't find a single result for this guy on marathonguide.com. Did he make his own event like Bare did?
If people fake races, what else do they fake? Are those light "bumper plates" on the bar or actual 45# plates?
Always funny to listen to people how tell you how to train for an ultra without ever haven't done one.
Unless he is getting to the mountains multiple times, there is no way he finishes. Not so much the trail running that is going to get him ...its going to be, like another poster said, the thin air that does him in.
I've seen people from sea level to about 1,500 feet try to take on Leadville. It doesn't end well. Usually DNF before the 50 mile mark.
Nick Bare is a beast. Matt Carpenter's course record is literally on borrowed time now.
Who Is This wrote:
Unless he is getting to the mountains multiple times, there is no way he finishes. Not so much the trail running that is going to get him ...its going to be, like another poster said, the thin air that does him in.
I've seen people from sea level to about 1,500 feet try to take on Leadville. It doesn't end well. Usually DNF before the 50 mile mark.
Really? I'm inclined to believe you, but I've known a couple guys who were over 200 lb, 4 hour marathoners living at sea level who went out and finished Leadville no problem.