current person with a brain wrote:
Just go straight for the bottle of bleach.
^ this
Besides, we were promised by someone who would never lie that there are only 15 total cases of the trump virus and that drinking bleach and injecting Lysol will easily cure those.
Real Obvi wrote:
Agree with the overall premise that getting a second vaccine is probably overkill.
But, the bolded comment is pure nonsense. There is no shortage of supply for these vaccines so getting the Moderna vaccine after already getting the Pfizer one would absolutely NOT "be taking a vaccine from another individual."
False there is a worldwide shortage of vaccinations. Additionally, depending on a time slot, you could be taking a precious slot that someone who has other priorities needs. Also if 1% of Americans thought this way, thats another 60 million shots taken up by the selfish. You should stop being so self absorbed and think about others in more difficult situations.
Why are Americans so fat when there is a food shortage in the world. They must be selfish taking all that food from the needy to themselves to try and medicate their feelings of sadness.
Anyways, the typical government tactic of GROOMING the public is always in use. Kind of like child predators that first groom the child and get the kid to believe he's on their side before abusing them. The governement is the metaphorical child predator.
I heard from the guy on tv that two masks is better than one, so I think the same logic applies here.
welll... wrote:
Real Obvi wrote:
Agree with the overall premise that getting a second vaccine is probably overkill.
But, the bolded comment is pure nonsense. There is no shortage of supply for these vaccines so getting the Moderna vaccine after already getting the Pfizer one would absolutely NOT "be taking a vaccine from another individual."
False there is a worldwide shortage of vaccinations. Additionally, depending on a time slot, you could be taking a precious slot that someone who has other priorities needs. Also if 1% of Americans thought this way, thats another 60 million shots taken up by the selfish. You should stop being so self absorbed and think about others in more difficult situations.
Pure nonsense. 100% BS.
Worldwide "shortage" is driven by economics and politics. There is essentially an infinite supply - can always manufacture more.
Further, anyone in the US who wants to get vaccinated can very, very easily based on availability of vaccination doses (and dosers) available.
Sorry, but you are just WRONG.
Real Obvi wrote:
Pure nonsense. 100% BS.
Worldwide "shortage" is driven by economics and politics. There is essentially an infinite supply - can always manufacture more.
Further, anyone in the US who wants to get vaccinated can very, very easily based on availability of vaccination doses (and dosers) available.
Sorry, but you are just WRONG.
I mean I'm not. The best way for this individual to stay healthy is for another person to get that vaccine. And ignoring politics and economics is just silly. And of course they can produce more vaccine to make up the 60 million doses that go to people doubling up and that gives more time to the virus to reproduce and mutate. I feel like you're missing the point here.
STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^""""""""--^' wrote:
Why are Americans so fat when there is a food shortage in the world. They must be selfish taking all that food from the needy to themselves to try and medicate their feelings of sadness.
Yes Americans are selfish for taking more food than needed and wasting so much food, but its not an apples to apples comparison.
A new mutation has popped up in India. If that mutation beats the vaccine and is more deadly, we are in a worse situation than whene we started. This is a true race against the clock to protect ourselves. The most selfish thing we can do now is actually help the world get vaccinated.
This thread has really shown why people couldn't be trusted during this pandemic to act with common sense. There is no basic understanding of remedial level science or history. INCREDIBLE!
welll... wrote:
Real Obvi wrote:
Pure nonsense. 100% BS.
Worldwide "shortage" is driven by economics and politics. There is essentially an infinite supply - can always manufacture more.
Further, anyone in the US who wants to get vaccinated can very, very easily based on availability of vaccination doses (and dosers) available.
Sorry, but you are just WRONG.
I mean I'm not. The best way for this individual to stay healthy is for another person to get that vaccine. And ignoring politics and economics is just silly. And of course they can produce more vaccine to make up the 60 million doses that go to people doubling up and that gives more time to the virus to reproduce and mutate. I feel like you're missing the point here.
Yes, you really are wrong.
And no, I'm not "ignoring politics and economics ". Indeed, I'm doing the opposite - declaring openly that it is politics and economics that result in shortages, not someone getting vaccinated 2x. So, what is silly is you implying that I was "ignoring politics and economics."
Please get some reading comprehension skills before posting.
There's no shortage in doses or appointments, period. And you can't easily keep unused doses frozen or ship them around the world, they will get discarded.
... but he's not wrong. YOU are wrong. I'm in a country right now, obviously not the US, where I simply can't get the vaccine... RIGHT NOW. And I want it. Yep, I'll fly back to the US in July and get it, because I'm rich and I can, but that doesn't help most people.
And last I checked it was something like 20+ countries in the world that don't even have any yet (we have some, it's just filtering out).
Will there be enough for the world? Yes. Will be be distributed equitably or quickly? No.
There were some recent reports that seemed to indicate that people with previous Covid infections will have similar efficacy with just 1 dose of mRNA vaccine vs 2. Thus, extrapolating a bit, I wouldn't anticipate that additional dosing within a short period of time would benefit you at all. However, it's a reasonable expectation at this point that booster shots will be helpful at some point down the line.
R&R wrote:
... but he's not wrong. YOU are wrong. I'm in a country right now, obviously not the US, where I simply can't get the vaccine... RIGHT NOW. And I want it. Yep, I'll fly back to the US in July and get it, because I'm rich and I can, but that doesn't help most people.
And last I checked it was something like 20+ countries in the world that don't even have any yet (we have some, it's just filtering out).
Will there be enough for the world? Yes. Will be be distributed equitably or quickly? No.
Thank you for understanding. People can't seem to think outside their own rich western worlds.
And to Obvi... using up additional doses has an impact on the political aspects. To act like Americans getting "available" doses has no impact on the political and economic will to vaccinate the world is ignorant of political policy. Please get a basic understanding of economics and politics before posting.
You really want the flu, huh?
R&R wrote:
You want a second vaccination, when a lot of the world (including me) don't even have access to a first?
You. Selfish.
You. Pansy.
Where are you, that you don't have the chance to get a shot?
STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^""""""""--^' wrote:
Why are Americans so fat when there is a food shortage in the world. They must be selfish taking all that food from the needy to themselves to try and medicate their feelings of sadness.
Anyways, the typical government tactic of GROOMING the public is always in use. Kind of like child predators that first groom the child and get the kid to believe he's on their side before abusing them. The governement is the metaphorical child predator.
Why are non-Americans so stupid? Steve the Idiot is a perfect example.
Come Fall, the shot (NOT a Vaccine) is going to have awful side effects, sadly including death for some who's bodies couldn't and shouldn't have had the Jab (fake Vaccine).
Steve the Addict>>>Idiot wrote:
STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^""""""""--^' wrote:
Why are Americans so fat when there is a food shortage in the world. They must be selfish taking all that food from the needy to themselves to try and medicate their feelings of sadness.
Anyways, the typical government tactic of GROOMING the public is always in use. Kind of like child predators that first groom the child and get the kid to believe he's on their side before abusing them. The governement is the metaphorical child predator.
Why are non-Americans so stupid? Steve the Idiot is a perfect example.
Come Fall, the shot (NOT a Vaccine) is going to have awful side effects, sadly including death for some who's bodies couldn't and shouldn't have had the Jab (fake Vaccine).
I never said anything about the vaccine. I am not getting it myself. The sheep will call me selfish but ironically I'm more selfless than them.
Maybe you can get the Sputnik V, the CoronaVac, and Astra Zeneca vaccines as well.
I could see vaccine addiction becoming a thing.
Star wrote:
I could see vaccine addiction becoming a thing.
Juice it up! Vax it up! I think pills are coming soon