I'll admit, big Sage fan here. I think she has the tools to become one of America's best middle distance runners over the next few years. She will be finishing her time at CU Boulder this NCAA Outdoor season, so very likely signing pro afterwards.
I'm calling it right now that she joins Team Boss following in Dani Jones's footsteps. Also, calling it right now that she gets top 3 in the 800m at the US Olympic Trials and makes the team.
Embrace debate.
Following in Jones' footsteps by having a pretty anonymous first year out as a pro?
She does hint at interest in either Team Boss or On Athletics Club in a podcast she did. I could see On making sense since her bf Joe Klecker is there, bit dunno if they will have more budget to add to the team already.
The video should start right where she discusses going pro.
She's got a long way to go to be competitive with Wilson, Rogers and Mu in the 800.
Another cu fan here, agree with your thoughts and believe she can go 1:58 / 4:00 in June, but I don't think that will be enough to make the team. Looks like they are working hard on speed.
Long term she can also be competitive at 5k and even steeple, so will be interesting to see how she progresses.
casual fan wrote:
She's got a long way to go to be competitive with Wilson, Rogers and Mu in the 800.
This ^
I think Wilson and Mu are pretty much locked in, but Rogers could possibly fall.
We also obviously don’t have to talk about the 1500m, no way she makes that team.
Wilson, Rogers, Mu, Ce'Aira Brown seem to be the class of the 800. I don't doubt that Sage could make the final, but I don't think that she will get top 3. There are also many women now in the 2:00-2:01 range and she has never broken two (yet).
commentor wrote:
Wilson, Rogers, Mu, Ce'Aira Brown seem to be the class of the 800. I don't doubt that Sage could make the final, but I don't think that she will get top 3. There are also many women now in the 2:00-2:01 range and she has never broken two (yet).
Forgot Hanna Green too
She will stay in Boulder because of Joe but neither On or Team Boss will get her to where she needs to be to make US teams.
tar heel xc 23 wrote:
She does hint at interest in either Team Boss or On Athletics Club in a podcast she did. I could see On making sense since her bf Joe Klecker is there, bit dunno if they will have more budget to add to the team already.
The video should start right where she discusses going pro.
https://youtu.be/imL_3HzJEqw?t=1170
honestly either of these options would be good for her. Ritz is has his athletes rolling and it definitely seems like a great team. Boss would be a lot of people training around her distance and also gives her more shoe brand options since Boss seems to have athletes from lots of different brands.
hurt me wrote:
Another cu fan here, agree with your thoughts and believe she can go 1:58 / 4:00 in June, but I don't think that will be enough to make the team. Looks like they are working hard on speed.
Long term she can also be competitive at 5k and even steeple, so will be interesting to see how she progresses.
What makes you think a 4:08 runner is going to jump down to 4:00 in one season? She's cut her 1500 4:13, 4:09, 4:08 since 2018. What makes you think she has a sudden 8 second jump in her? 4:00.00 would be #8 in US history. She's currently #111.
Every season I come on this board reading about how the latest young American thing is gonna run 4:00 or sub 4. Every year I'm right when I say it's really dang hard to do and that *insert woman here* probably won't do it.
I think 1:58 is much more feasible than 4:00 given she's already been hanging around 2 flat since 2019.
800 US team will be hard to make but if you can break 2 then you're in with a shot. It can be such a wild/unpredictable race.
Ooops I meant 4:04. The reason I believe the improvement is there is that she ran the 2.01 /4:09 in spring of 2019 and then between injury and covid was off the map til now. She is simply better now, the recent 54/2:00/4:08 are really rust buster's/season openers. Coaches have her very very underraced, so I anticipate a great stretch of pr's at pac, ncaa, ot.
For perspective, her whole indoor season was an 800, a mile and then ncaa. Outdoor so far is 2x400, an 800 and a 1500.
Even with big prs, I still don't think she makes the team. Just hope she has a great summer. I also think she goes pro shortly, but technically she still has 1 season of indoor eligibility left, maybe a grad class at BYU?
Posters rightly indicate she won't make the team at 8/15 as she's probably still a year or two from the level required.
Perhaps the steeple?
commentor wrote:
commentor wrote:
Wilson, Rogers, Mu, Ce'Aira Brown seem to be the class of the 800. I don't doubt that Sage could make the final, but I don't think that she will get top 3. There are also many women now in the 2:00-2:01 range and she has never broken two (yet).
Forgot Hanna Green too
Has anyone seen a strong race performance from Ce'Aira Brown in 2020/21?
Genuine question. I've not seen her anywhere
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hurt me wrote:
Another cu fan here, agree with your thoughts and believe she can go 1:58 / 4:00 in June, but I don't think that will be enough to make the team. Looks like they are working hard on speed.
Long term she can also be competitive at 5k and even steeple, so will be interesting to see how she progresses.
What makes you think a 4:08 runner is going to jump down to 4:00 in one season? She's cut her 1500 4:13, 4:09, 4:08 since 2018. What makes you think she has a sudden 8 second jump in her? 4:00.00 would be #8 in US history. She's currently #111.
Every season I come on this board reading about how the latest young American thing is gonna run 4:00 or sub 4. Every year I'm right when I say it's really dang hard to do and that *insert woman here* probably won't do it.
I think 1:58 is much more feasible than 4:00 given she's already been hanging around 2 flat since 2019.
800 US team will be hard to make but if you can break 2 then you're in with a shot. It can be such a wild/unpredictable race.
Absolutely 1:58 is more feasible than 4:00 this season, and the 800m at the Trials can be more of a crapshoot, which is why I'm thinking 800m is her best shot of making a team this year (if all the stars align on race day).
Team Boss has no money to give, nobody "signs" with them as much as they make an Insta post about it.
I would say its far more likely that Sage goes with ON. I could see Dani Jones switching over and training with Sage under Ritz. Sage Hurta and Emma Coburn don't seem like a good match personality wise. I'm sure they would get along fine, but I imagine Sage with continue pursuing some academic path as well.
Track Fan 12:51 wrote:
I would say its far more likely that Sage goes with ON. I could see Dani Jones switching over and training with Sage under Ritz. Sage Hurta and Emma Coburn don't seem like a good match personality wise. I'm sure they would get along fine, but I imagine Sage with continue pursuing some academic path as well.
That would have to be pretty far down the line for Jones to switch teams as she's on a NB contract and On will certainly not welcome an athlete sponsored to another brand.
Ahhh okay 4:04 is much more reasonable. Ambitious still, but kinda thing that if she can get perfect conditions and a quick races where she just rides the the rail the whole time yeah I could see that happen!
Sorry if that post was a bit aggressive, just was stunned by the four flat prediction.
It was a solid opener in the 1500 in Eugene the other week. Speaking with some folks who raced that day it was not great conditions. She's definitely got potential this year and long term.
That said, would rather not see her got to Team Boss unless she wants to steeple. Fastest way to improve is to hold onto faster runners in training. At the end of the day, the best athlete at Team Boss is Coburn, who is an unreal steepler but just a good miler/5k runner. If you want to really fast track development, she should hop on the train of someone faster.
Most likely scenario has Hurta sticking with Wetmore/Burroughs and Simpson, who have been her coaches and training partner for the past 4+ years, rather than switching to a new coach and group mere weeks before the OT. Maybe she would make a move if she doesn't make the team for Tokyo or Eugene but there's no huge benefit to switching before that. She certainly doesn't gain any leverage in getting a sponsorship contract by joining Team Boss, they're all on individual deals with a variety of brands.
But nice try, OP.