Yes or No: COVID mandates and restrictions were the biggest overreaction in history

Lead Foil Hat III wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

It’s a sick mix of Mengele and Tuskegee... forcing kids to get a disease to study them and expose to incalculable future risk. When we have an excellent preventative measure. You anti vaxxers have literal blood on your hands.

The societal cost will be in the $billions.

Ok, or we could just get them a more traditional vaccine similar to the things kids have been taking for decades. Oh, I forgot, the virtually untested mRNA tech is "so so so much better it would be criminal to use anything else!" Tools for fools.

Disgusting that you use literal assumptions and not PROOF when dealing with kids lives.

Are you a Sinovac investor? I bet you are.

Sad thing is this thread will be deleted soon since the mods have gone delete happy.

All I know is I have a very customer facing job and still no issues with Covid. Easy decision not to take harambes snake oil.

BigYawn wrote:

Sad thing is this thread will be deleted soon since the mods have gone delete happy.

All I know is I have a very customer facing job and still no issues with Covid. Easy decision not to take harambes snake oil.

Fifteen months in and not a sign of anyone in my life being sick with Covid..

Nobody in my family, not one of my friends, nobody at any of the stores or restaurants or parks I frequent, nobody in my neighborhood, nobody on the building I work in. Nobody at the school my daughter teaches at or my grand-daughter attends.

And now with all the people getting vaccines and so supposedly safe and with cases dropping tremendously, why or why would I go out and put that poison in my arm?

Because "experts" paid by big pharma tell me too?

BigYawn wrote:

Sad thing is this thread will be deleted soon since the mods have gone delete happy.

All I know is I have a very customer facing job and still no issues with Covid. Easy decision not to take harambes snake oil.

Probability is beyond 4 factor arithmetic so this iconic denier take checks out.

I should make an 8 sided die with your guys’ repetitively inane talking points and then I wont even have to log on.

Harambe wrote:

BigYawn wrote:

Sad thing is this thread will be deleted soon since the mods have gone delete happy.

All I know is I have a very customer facing job and still no issues with Covid. Easy decision not to take harambes snake oil.

Probability is beyond 4 factor arithmetic so this iconic denier take checks out.

I should make an 8 sided die with your guys’ repetitively inane talking points and then I wont even have to log on.

Those meds. You need to remember to take them. 4 factor arithmetic?

He keeps spouting off about 4 factor arithmetic. It’s to distract from the real math and numbers.

BigYawn wrote:

He keeps spouting off about 4 factor arithmetic. It’s to distract from the real math and numbers.

Must be some GenZ New Math you’re trained in because your posts are conspicuously lacking in any numbers at all!

I am as non-alarmist as they come. I know several people who have gotten covid. (Or had influenza like illness and tested positive for covid.) Typical description: had a fever, felt lousy a couple of days, got better. I know people who tested positive for covid and all they got was a two week paid vacation. Fortunately, they got that. I know people who know college kids who got covid in late winter 2020. Lost sense of taste for a while. Other than that, nada. I knew personally one famous person about age 80, multiple health issues for years, died in a care facility with covid. I know people who know people who died with covid. With one exception, it was age 65+ or other serious health compromise (obese, diabetes, or cancer). This is not a surprise when about 1 of 9 deaths in the US last year was coded for covid. I only the second order anecdotes because I went fishing for these stories. I asked random people about their experience with covid among their friends and family. Obviously, a lot of people have had covid bad and died. 80% of them in the US were age 65+. If we trumpeted every death due to heart disease (most are over age 65), we would have people proposing to enforce cardio on everybody.

The Unkle wrote:

BigYawn wrote:

Sad thing is this thread will be deleted soon since the mods have gone delete happy.

All I know is I have a very customer facing job and still no issues with Covid. Easy decision not to take harambes snake oil.

Fifteen months in and not a sign of anyone in my life being sick with Covid..

Nobody in my family, not one of my friends, nobody at any of the stores or restaurants or parks I frequent, nobody in my neighborhood, nobody on the building I work in. Nobody at the school my daughter teaches at or my grand-daughter attends.

And now with all the people getting vaccines and so supposedly safe and with cases dropping tremendously, why or why would I go out and put that poison in my arm?

Because "experts" paid by big pharma tell me too?

[quote]2600 bro wrote:

It’s a sick mix of Mengele and Tuskegee... forcing kids to get a disease to study them and expose to incalculable future risk. When we have an excellent preventative measure. You anti vaxxers have literal blood on your hands.

Forcing kids to get a disease? How so? 15 months in and hardly a kid has been sick with this.

But forcing kids to slam a vaccine into their arm is just fine?

Up is down in Covid Huckster world

BigYawn wrote:

He keeps spouting off about 4 factor arithmetic. It’s to distract from the real math and numbers.

The guy is nuts

Harambe wrote:

BigYawn wrote:

He keeps spouting off about 4 factor arithmetic. It’s to distract from the real math and numbers.

Must be some GenZ New Math you’re trained in because your posts are conspicuously lacking in any numbers at all!

I’ve learned a lot of about the average person over these months on LRC. I suspect BigYawn, LFH, and others think they are putting forth evidence and data. It cannot be intentional... the way they spam long data less screed and accuse others of “no evidence,” while being the worst offenders.

The question is what could possibly make them feel that way? What weird form of narcissism or defect in critical thinking could make people so blind?

False. My posts about Covid are rarely “long.”

Your failure to accept that people might not trust a vaccine that has zero long term data on its potential side effects makes you very close minded.

BigYawn wrote:

False. My posts about Covid are rarely “long.”

Your failure to accept that people might not trust a vaccine that has zero long term data on its potential side effects makes you very close minded.

That was more to LFH than to you - but yours are certainly evidence-free.

I'll repeat again:

Vaccine has a year of data, COVID has a year of data.

The data show COVID infection has a much higher risk of every "adverse event" than vaccination. It's just "trust" it's horrible risk analysis. Remember the vaccine is just a piece of the same mRNA from the virus.

2600 bro wrote:

BigYawn wrote:

False. My posts about Covid are rarely “long.”

Your failure to accept that people might not trust a vaccine that has zero long term data on its potential side effects makes you very close minded.

That was more to LFH than to you - but yours are certainly evidence-free.

I'll repeat again:

Vaccine has a year of data, COVID has a year of data.

The data show COVID infection has a much higher risk of every "adverse event" than vaccination. It's just "trust" it's horrible risk analysis. Remember the vaccine is just a piece of the same mRNA from the virus.

Dude, There is no data on the kids, and covid is not a threat to kids, so you are just a lying piece shilling for mRNA tech industry. There is no reason to be anything other than patient with the new tech and children.

2600 bro wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Must be some GenZ New Math you’re trained in because your posts are conspicuously lacking in any numbers at all!

I’ve learned a lot of about the average person over these months on LRC. I suspect BigYawn, LFH, and others think they are putting forth evidence and data. It cannot be intentional... the way they spam long data less screed and accuse others of “no evidence,” while being the worst offenders.

The question is what could possibly make them feel that way? What weird form of narcissism or defect in critical thinking could make people so blind?

You have never put up data that actually supports what you are saying, not once.

You have no proof or any fringe type of evidentiary support at even its most rudimentary level to back your claim that Covid-19 is not a threat to children.

Really, really wishing it to be true is not evidentiary support.

Railroading the point until the cows come home is not evidentiary support.

You made the claim, so it's up to you to provide the figures and statistics and hard evidence that Covid-19 is not a threat.

Then cross-reference that with schools and districts who closed schools for a modicum of days because of student exposure to Covid-19.

You would have to provide solid evidence that the child body is so full of later manifestations of RNA -based traits at adulthood that only at adulthood, is a human subject to illness with Covid-19.

You would have to show that children can only be vectors, and therefore can only transmit.

Can you even begin to provide any of that?

Or, and try to follow me here, I can take my chances. It’s been a year and I haven’t gotten sick, so I’m going to let it ride. That’s better then putting some new garbage into my body.

A year of data is not good enough.

BigYawn wrote:

Or, and try to follow me here, I can take my chances. It’s been a year and I haven’t gotten sick, so I’m going to let it ride. That’s better then putting some new garbage into my body.

A year of data is not good enough.

Yep. 15 months and nobody around me has gotten sick from this Covid. And now cases are way down.

Can't sue Big Pharma over the vax.

Let me run out and slam that crap into my body.

Lead Foil Hat wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

I’ve learned a lot of about the average person over these months on LRC. I suspect BigYawn, LFH, and others think they are putting forth evidence and data. It cannot be intentional... the way they spam long data less screed and accuse others of “no evidence,” while being the worst offenders.

The question is what could possibly make them feel that way? What weird form of narcissism or defect in critical thinking could make people so blind?

You have never put up data that actually supports what you are saying, not once.

I have posted many many articles detailing the prevalence of COVID, hospitalization, severe outcomes, “long COVID” and other outcomes. I’ve also posted data from both mRNA trials detailing those same outcomes from the vaccine. You’re welcome to go read it all for the 500th time. You just ignore the actual data and fearmonger and ask “but what if!!!”