winner ran 32:08. But they looked like they were walking the first 7 laps
winner ran 32:08. But they looked like they were walking the first 7 laps
skip to around 5:15.00 to see
in 2019, the ivy league men's 10k was a 32:06 race. in 2017, it was a 31:55 race. But the first miles were much faster than 6:00- 5:27 and 5:24 respectively.
I can't think of a single reason track isn't popular...
Guys want to win... in those meets its more important to win or place than to go balls out running fast.
You know this.
That's why they are America East.
When I raced D1, I always had two plans - 1) if I was not leading and the pace was solid, I raced.. 2) if the pace slipped beyond PR pace that I was capable of running that day, I took the lead.
I was a 10 x All-Conference. 2 x All-Region. Different mentality. 2 x Conference Champ. 4 x Conference Runner-Up.
around 5 years ago, I watched the first 800 meters of an olympic 1500 final go out near 4:35/m pace. Almost exactly Kipchoge's sub2 marathon pace.
Who??
definer of insanity wrote:
I can't think of a single reason track isn't popular...
Why is it any different than a basketball team trying to slow the game down instead of playing a full-court press?
This has always been part of the sport, and for my money, it actually makes it more exciting, not less. There's tension and suspense wondering when someone is going to make a move, there's the risk of falls, and it makes for wild racing in the later stages. I'm not saying I want to see it happen every time, of course. Variety makes the sport more interesting. Sometimes you get a very slow start. Sometimes you get someone tearing off in their own little breakaway. Sometimes you get the top 2-4 people in a pace line, holding on to their PR pace for dear life.
Seriously, I think everyone on this site has watched the Pre movies too many times. Runners don't go out slow because they're wimps; they go out slow because they want to win. Cycling fans embrace these tactics as part of the fabric of the sport, and they understand that no matter how it plays out, nobody is going to win without suffering.
Agree. Very well said.
Yeah, it can work, but in my opinion, but the track race & the basketball game are boring tp watch!
Wow. Those commentators were better than anything flosports has and maybe even better than the pros on NBC or whatever. Too bad about that NJTI guy. Broke away at the mile and then got lapped.
God of Wine wrote:
That's why they are America East.
When I raced D1, I always had two plans - 1) if I was not leading and the pace was solid, I raced.. 2) if the pace slipped beyond PR pace that I was capable of running that day, I took the lead.
I was a 10 x All-Conference. 2 x All-Region. Different mentality. 2 x Conference Champ. 4 x Conference Runner-Up.
What is your name then I would like to see some evidence to these claims
You won't find out.
6:08 is insanely slow to take out a race. I seem to recall the Am East 10K went out quite slow many years ago when Jeff Martinez of Binghamton won the race, but those clydesdales that day still ran close to 31 minutes in the end. Martinez was 6'5" and beat out Elliot Lehane who was 6'3".
God of Wine wrote:
That's why they are America East.
When I raced D1, I always had two plans - 1) if I was not leading and the pace was solid, I raced.. 2) if the pace slipped beyond PR pace that I was capable of running that day, I took the lead.
I was a 10 x All-Conference. 2 x All-Region. Different mentality. 2 x Conference Champ. 4 x Conference Runner-Up.
If this is true, you had the talent and ability to overcome questionable (even bad) race strategy. Not everyone is that talented.
rojo wrote:
in 2019, the ivy league men's 10k was a 32:06 race. in 2017, it was a 31:55 race. But the first miles were much faster than 6:00- 5:27 and 5:24 respectively.
https://www.tfrrs.org/results/61942/3828941/Ivy_League_Outdoor_Track_&_Field_Championships/Men_10000m_Run/https://www.tfrrs.org/results/51545/3177915/Ivy_League_Outdoor_Track_&_Field_Championships/Men_10000m_Run/
The last mile at America East was around a 4:15 so that explains why they were still able to run a similar time.
this is definitely cap
So, then why time the event at all. Just have them run at whatever pace and then note placings at the end. If it takes 40 min, so what, right? It is all about strategy, so no overall time, since running 32:00 min for a guy is pretty embarrassing, unless there was a snow storm or hail....
Conference meets are mainly about competing for points as teams try to win titles. So in essence especially for events without prelims, the clock doesn't matter. People just need to understand that it doesn't matter while watching. If you want to watch a fast race college conference meets aren't the place for it. The kicks at the end though tend to be pretty amazing.
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