If you're Drew Hunter in this situation what do you do?

I feel bad wrote:

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What is the best course of action to this? Obviously Tinman Elite will have to issue a statement, likely apologizing to Schwartz and his family while addressing the situation. However, moving on from there they 100% have to rebrand right? Even if they manage to get the legal rights to the name Tinman Elite, I don't think people will support them under the same brand. Can they still salvage everything with a complete rebrand?

Is this the time for Drew to find a true pro group to train in? Sell the brand, find a good group to train with (the ON guys?) and try to spend the second half of his contract focusing on his running and his name.

he makes a tiktok, snapchat, twitter, insta and youtube vid that he looks into the camera and says

"your move centro"

within seconds LR crashes due to so much traffic! the phrase goes full mainstream and turns into a meme, with all the classic meme pictures with "your move centro" as the new catchphrase

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I feel bad wrote:

Title.

What is the best course of action to this? Obviously Tinman Elite will have to issue a statement, likely apologizing to Schwartz and his family while addressing the situation. However, moving on from there they 100% have to rebrand right? Even if they manage to get the legal rights to the name Tinman Elite, I don't think people will support them under the same brand. Can they still salvage everything with a complete rebrand?

Is this the time for Drew to find a true pro group to train in? Sell the brand, find a good group to train with (the ON guys?) and try to spend the second half of his contract focusing on his running and his name.

Only problem is he is tied down with Adidas so Ritz or Jerry wouldn't coach him maybe join Joe Bosshards group with Morgan Mcdonald if he can because they have athletes of all different sponsors but ditch the D2 Wannabes and Sub Elite runners or he will plateu where he is at

If the washington redskins can change their name and survive, then so can these guys. Change the name, sell any trademarks, etc. to Tinman for $1, private apology, public apology, move on.

Apologize and welcome him back.

Go work with Vig. Is he in Charlottesville? That seems to be the place to be.

Go literally to his house and knock on his door. Immediately apologize, and hash stuff out.

There's been a clear answer for a long time: get a condo in Colorado Springs and train with ADP under Scott Simmons. Leave the TME situation behind, it's toxic to high achievers and they have zero experience in guiding true world class performers. He's outgrown them and if they aren't completely arrogant and entitled they'll understand his need to leave. Forget Bosshard, that's a compromised situation, too.

Step one: change the groups name or dissolve the group - even if it’s later then people wanted it’d still win him over some public favor

Step two: find a coach that isn’t your mother or Cory Leslie. Good choices would be Mike Smith, Warhurst or Terrence Mahon

Step three: run well at the trials

I don’t think he necessarily needs new training partners. He has 3 teammates who have ran 13:22 or better not in super shoes so it’s not like there’s a complete dearth of talent in the group - those are people who can push Drew in sessions

Run something fast.

Bullet the Blue Sky wrote:

If the washington redskins can change their name and survive, then so can these guys. Change the name, sell any trademarks, etc. to Tinman for $1, private apology, public apology, move on.

Did you just compare an established NFL team to a 3 year old group of guys living in a random house in Boulder?

Trackfan55 wrote:

Good choices would be Mike Smith, Warhurst or Terrence Mahon

Agree about these choices. Besides Bosshard (and I have no idea if he's a good option), these are the only three people that make any sense.

1.) Mike Smith: Elite coach w/ elite location. Only issue is what pros does he coach aside from Rupp? If Drew moved to Flag, would he have people to run w/?

2.) Hadn't thought about Warhurst until now, but he could be perfect. Willis, Big Bird and Hobbs- who likely won't end up going to NAU. He's coached people to the highest level and would provide exactly what Drew's looking for.

3.) I can't keep track of him. Is he in SD now? Who is in the group still? Eric Avila? Seems like a lot of turnover, but at least he's had success coaching elites.

I mostly mentioned Terrence because of the Adidas connection. Ron and Mike Smith both seem to be ok with coaching remotely to an extent so that could work in Drew’s favor if he stays in Boulder (seeing as he has a house there etc).

Other coaches that come to mind are Ray Treacy (coaches Ben True remotely) and Mark Carrol due to the adidas connection. To be honest I am struggling to think of other coaches that don’t already have a connection to Nike or new balance etc. There’s so many good college coaches but I don’t think many of them coach pros.

It’s also hard if Drew is adamant on bringing the TME crew with him

My point was people argued that the redskins had SO much history and investment in their brand and identity as a reason to NOT change. What TME has invested in brand and identity and history is peanuts. They can easily change the name/logo/etc without losing their identity, etc.

lke_4:25 wrote:

Bullet the Blue Sky wrote:

If the washington redskins can change their name and survive, then so can these guys. Change the name, sell any trademarks, etc. to Tinman for $1, private apology, public apology, move on.

Did you just compare an established NFL team to a 3 year old group of guys living in a random house in Boulder?

Why would Hunter apologize for anything?

He fired is under performing coach. Period.

Unfortunately being an addidas athlete pretty much eliminates the coaches I would reccomend.

shootpost wrote:

Why would Hunter apologize for anything?

He fired is under performing coach. Period.

Unfortunately being an addidas athlete pretty much eliminates the coaches I would reccomend.

Also, does he think his future is in the 15 or 5? I think that dictates the choice.

Work out a deal to keep the name

shootpost wrote:

Why would Hunter apologize for anything?

He fired is under performing coach. Period.

Unfortunately being an addidas athlete pretty much eliminates the coaches I would reccomend.

He screwed up linking his brand with his coach. But seriously nobody cares. Change to axe&hammer and in two months nobody will care.

I feel bad wrote:

Title.

What is the best course of action to this? Obviously Tinman Elite will have to issue a statement, likely apologizing to Schwartz and his family while addressing the situation. However, moving on from there they 100% have to rebrand right? Even if they manage to get the legal rights to the name Tinman Elite, I don't think people will support them under the same brand. Can they still salvage everything with a complete rebrand?

Is this the time for Drew to find a true pro group to train in? Sell the brand, find a good group to train with (the ON guys?) and try to spend the second half of his contract focusing on his running and his name.

Jump in the DeLorean and hit the Way-back-machine to 2016, actually go NCAA route instead of Adidas, put your name among other OU greats, get one season along side of Cheserek, get to run some xc against Fischer, Klecker, McDonald etc, have a little good fun in college when you're 19 instead of 23, and still go on to an even more successful running career than you've had by skipping college.

Kinda like Grant Fischer did, who's now faster than Hunter despite only being pro for 6 months.

....Not to mention Fischer grabbed an EE degree from Stanford while running among the top from the NCAA.