Some say it’s physically impossible for covid to spread outdoors. If so then why do 90% of MDs tell us wear mask outdoors?

Who says it's physically impossible to spread it outdoors?

Not physically impossible, but in many cases highly improbable. Shoulder to shoulder in a stadium is very different from passing someone on the trail

trashcan wrote:

Not physically impossible, but in many cases highly improbable. Shoulder to shoulder in a stadium is very different from passing someone on the trail

What about shoulder to shoulder in an all out competitive running race? Paranoia or legit concern somehow?

By the way the Texas rangers full packed mlb baseball event we see in the news should be interesting. Because of the lag in new infections, things may seem fine for a couple weeks and then maybe we see the full effect (hopefully none?)

Power & control from the medical industrial complex. 😠

Nobody said that is impossible to get the virus outdoors. It's just not that likely unless you sit in a Texas Stadium for 3 hours and squeeze through the hallways to get in and out.

Because 90% is more than '"some".

90%. Cite you source?

For the same reason university faculty keep their mouths shut even when they disagree with insane SJW policies: self-preservation in the face of the mob.

So that people who anti-science have something to talk about on running message boards?

Honestly, the real reason is that it's easier to have a blanket rule than to say it's OK to have masks off outside, which then while shopping leads to issues of people taking the mask off, then putting it on, then taking the mask off, and putting it on as they go in and of shops. It is easier to enforce. There is no excuse of 'well I was just doing this blah blah'.

You don't have to define what is 'outside' and 'inside'. Regarding roof, covered domes, things with three walls, seating areas, gardens and so on.

No issues with queues.

People not understanding logic.

It's just stupid, the rule, if they are to have one, should be: wear a mask inside in a crowded place, don't wear a mask outside.

People not understanding that outdoors 0.00000001% is not the same as 10%. Or 0%. That you'll basically never get 0%.

To provide some kind of visual signalling effect.

Because it's easier for them.

Yes, it's easier (the main reason).

Because they don't want to get into trouble.

Because it's easier to say that and then if there's a problem they don't get blamed, than to say it's OK, and then for some idiot to try to sue them or take legal action or so on because they've said something that that person then takes as gospel and tries to apportion blame onto them for.

Because if they say it's OK they then have to quantify hundreds or thousands of tiny little conditions.

Because they then get severely criticised.

Because they think it then gives people carte blanche to do what they want, it's a slippery slope, people start to push it with shop fronts and so on or think oh well, it was OK to talk to Marge for 30 seconds outside of the shop, it's only me and her in there, so why isn't it OK to carry on into the shop without masks? It's the same level of risk. When it isn't.

Because people don't understand this thing hangs in the air, for 2-3 hours, so it doesn't matter who is IN the shop or out of the shop at that point, it's who has passed through in the preceding time, the ventilation, the air flow direction and hundreds or thousands of other things, some tiny, some not.

Because they may then think distance doesn't matter, so start standing 4mm away from someone spitting flecks into their face and eyes, hugging them. Because they then use it as justification for other things 'well, standing outside with masks off is OK!'. However what they don't realise (or maybe they do) is that it simply leads to people not trusting what is said, as most people can see through this. Most people see how ridiculous it is.

Because the people making these statements are essentially told what to say - it's not free will or what you actually think.

Because there is a lack of understanding about small spaces, air flow, transmission in general, relative risk, people will do things that are high risk and not realise and not do/stress about things that are low risk. This includes some of the people you're referring to in your post.

"Some say"... you moron.

give it a rest already wrote:

So that people who anti-science have something to talk about on running message boards?

Bro, the outdoor mask people are the anti-science ones.

This is the correct answer.

JObrien wrote:

trashcan wrote:

Not physically impossible, but in many cases highly improbable. Shoulder to shoulder in a stadium is very different from passing someone on the trail

What about shoulder to shoulder in an all out competitive running race? Paranoia or legit concern somehow?

The concern is airborne virus exhaled by one person is inhaled by another. The severity of any subsequent infection is a strong function of the viral load, that is, how much virus was inhaled by the newly infected person.

So things that minimize exposure include at least distance between persons (social distancing), time of exposure (passing on a trail), and dissipation of virus aerosols (air circulation).

For the case of shoulder to shoulder racing distance and amount of virus potentially expelled are not good, but dissipation is probably very high. How this works out is situation dependent and hard to quantified. I'd be inclined not to worry about it as a personal risk, but if I were a school administrator subject to liability I'd be inclined to be more conservative.

citation nation wrote:

90%. Cite you source?

I've been a nurse for 25 years. I don't know ANY physicians who advocate wearing a mask outside. Period

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Who says it's physically impossible to spread it outdoors?

I think we know why the OP skipped over this response. Because his thread is a lie.

nope. not. no wrote:

citation nation wrote:

90%. Cite you source?

I've been a nurse for 25 years. I don't know ANY physicians who advocate wearing a mask outside. Period

Are you a licensed nurse?

JObrien wrote:

Some say it’s physically impossible for covid to spread outdoors. If so then why do 90% of MDs tell us wear mask outdoors? Is it contagious enough of a disease for the vapor to sit in the air a number of seconds?

90% of mds on tv or appointed by the WH as their mouthpiece. >90% of practicing physicians will tell you that it’s pointless.