If Chauvin is found not guilty, are people justified in rioting?

Sometimes things are just wrong, this is one of those.

12 year old kid steals a man's bike he left outside a store, the man chases the kid down and beats him close to death, the kid will never be the same. The man had no history of anything, he just flipped out. But.......what he did was just wrong. What Chauvin did was wrong, and it is time to make an example out of this known punk cop. 2nd degree murder!!!!

Whatley wrote:

Sometimes things are just wrong, this is one of those.

12 year old kid steals a man's bike he left outside a store, the man chases the kid down and beats him close to death, the kid will never be the same. The man had no history of anything, he just flipped out. But.......what he did was just wrong. What Chauvin did was wrong, and it is time to make an example out of this known punk cop. 2nd degree murder!!!!

Had GF not died, would you still want charges against Chauvin, and if so, for what?

Riots? No.

Protests? Yes.

The guy is certainly guilty of a wrongful death. It wasn't premeditated murder, but it was something on down the scale where he is guilty of a crime in causing the death of Floyd.

douglas burke wrote:

curious.. wrote:

Thoughts?

No, It makes the USA along with its reputation for being the most Civil, Peaceful, Honest, Hardworking people on Earth

Is that what you think Americas reputation is???

If so you really don't have a clue what the world thinks of you outside your own little bubble.

Your reputation is closer to that of a war mongering,obese,inward looking nation who thinks they own the world.

The riot is going to happen.

They will riot in celebration if he's convicted.

They will riot in protest if he's exonerated.

I for one think riots would be justified. Chauvin murdered GF in front of the whole world and how will the system ever change if an incorrect verdict isn’t challenge by a reaction of force?

Rioting is never justified. Rioters should be stepped on by the authorities, hard. No matter how just they feel their "cause" is.

BLM!! wrote:

No, if a court of law with all the facts of the case decides he’s not guilty then the public should respect their decision. I imagine he’ll probably be found guilty of some of the charges though.

Courts are not the arbiters of truth.

Of course not. Riots are not justified and would only hurt other innocent people. Fully peaceful protests however would acceptable.

If what he did was acceptable he should not be guilty. Maybe those that wrote the rules and allowed the rules (city council/mayor) should be on trial.

From what I've read I don't know if he should be guilty but he should no longer be in a position of power because he appears to lack reasonable judgement.

When I was younger I was taught that it was better to let 9 guilty get off free than to convict one guilty person and that there was a presumption of innocence. It seems that today the attitude is an assumption of guilty and it is better to put 9 innocent away than to let one innocent off the hook.

Interesting. I tend to agree (somewhat), but did you have the same attitude and beliefs when you heard about the capitol riot?

Also, are you willing to admit that rioting might be an overreaction in this case, especially if it comes out that the drugs in GF's system were the substantial contributor to his death and not the police?

Common Cents wrote:

I for one think riots would be justified. Chauvin murdered GF in front of the whole world and how will the system ever change if an incorrect verdict isn’t challenge by a reaction of force?

Ah, so you are choosing to start with your conclusion and are willing to violently oppose those who disagree with you. It is exactly this type of dangerous and distorted thinking that leads to wars.

Birkoboy wrote:

douglas burke wrote:

No, It makes the USA along with its reputation for being the most Civil, Peaceful, Honest, Hardworking people on Earth

Is that what you think Americas reputation is???

If so you really don't have a clue what the world thinks of you outside your own little bubble.

Your reputation is closer to that of a war mongering,obese,inward looking nation who thinks they own the world.

Very few countries in the world have a right to judge. You could throw a dart at any country or continent on the map and list off dozens of wars, atrocities, genocides, many probably far worse than anything the US has committed. I don't think the rest of the world (who by the way don't hate us as much as you would like to believe as evidenced by our unprecedented immigration and tourism numbers) truly hates us, I think they are jealous of our freedom and prosperity. Your deranged hatred of the US only further proves that to me.

Never Justified wrote:

Rioting is never justified. Rioters should be stepped on by the authorities, hard. No matter how just they feel their "cause" is.

You ever heard of the American revolution?

Let it Rupp wrote:

Common Cents wrote:

I for one think riots would be justified. Chauvin murdered GF in front of the whole world and how will the system ever change if an incorrect verdict isn’t challenge by a reaction of force?

Ah, so you are choosing to start with your conclusion and are willing to violently oppose those who disagree with you. It is exactly this type of dangerous and distorted thinking that leads to wars.

What makes you sure he started with his conclusion?

That’s because the United States had existed as a nation for less than 250 years. We’ve had a pretty crappy record since then.

Allowed slavery and Jim Crow laws for the majority of our history, kicked native Americans out of wherever they lived to get more money. Literally fought a war over whether slavery should be allowed.

Don’t forget the imperialist expansion era. Completely screwed over the Philippines and Cuba in particular.

The vast majority of their military involvement in central and South America was to protect financial interest at the expense of local citizens. During the Cold War era this continued but instead served to unseat communist politicians and often put corrupt dictators in their place (look up operation PBsuccess).

the US also didn’t allow in many Jews during the pre WW2 and WW2 era prosecution in Europe. Anti-Semitism was pretty well tolerated until Pearl Harbor.

There’s the Vietnam war of course, all the pointless intervention and death in the Middle East.

Mass incarceration and the war on drugs.

I could go on and on. The US is not a clean country. Go back to history class.

Nobody is justified in rioting, let it be Make America Great Again, Trump fanatics, BLM's, ANTIFA, Proud Boys, Q-anon, the Italian mafia, whatever.

Not CNN wrote:

Whatley wrote:

Guys like me register so we own our opinions,

Fact.....evil cop who had a history of being over aggreSsive killed a guy and we all saw it, love facts!

In 15 seconds Chauvin had his gun out and tossing f bombs at Floyd. He set the stage.

No......we need to talk sir .......keep in mind this was over a 20 dollar bill.

When did Chauvin ever pull his gun on Floyd? I think you have the wrong cop.

Just imagine if Floyd would have not resisted? Why resist arrest over a funny money fine?

Begging for your life as a guy kneels on your neck for nine plus minutes is "resisting" is it?

No. But why would looters, rioters, etc. care about justification? It has never stopped anyone before. Heck, these leftist hell holes we call cities pretty much encourage it with their catch and release policies.