Hey not einstein,
it's also possible that the course is short. plus individuals can improve, but the guy was talking about talking about the 100th place runner. the variation of the 100th place at a meet should be much smaller than individual variation.
So are you implying that the course was not short last year, but is this year? That is the only way the course length can effect the variability between the 2 years.
Really though, I mean in the Mid-Atlantic states the conditions for races in Early October can vary greatly from year to year. Last year it was hot and humid, and a little soggy from all those hurricanes that brought rain to the mid-atlantic. This year it was perfect weather, dry, as well as having more teams running because regionals will be run there.
who cares wrote:
A Cross Country PR? This is the most meaningless thing I can think of. What place did you finish, that means something.
Oh please, whereas a time from course to course doesn't neccesary mean ones better and beating so and so means more, a xc pr does have signficance, and you can definatly measure progress frlom one season to the next quite often unless hte improvement is so insigifant.
Also many times guys will run at the same meets each year...hence the same course. Which then makes it just as arbritrary as a track race because the weather and pace is the only other factors dictating the time, which you also have in track.
mrr82...do you do anything other than post? Seriously, do you train at all to improve your running or do you just talk about good runners?
The "what about your own running" crowd always resort to this...your in put and knowledge on various running forums have been appreciated for years..keep up the good analysis even when I don't agree
I ran the course for the first time yesterday and was quite happy with my result, so this short course debate peaked my interest. Now, obviously I have a vested interest in believing that my time over the distance was credible, but I just wanted to point out that the course is run around permanent markers so the distance should not really change from year to year. Also, the leaders times seemed very comparable to years past, but, yes, the depth seemed to increase quite a bit this year. Anyone from Lehigh that's quite familiar with the course want to assure me that I'm as fast as I think I am. :)
Lehigh's course has been the same for many years, it is marked by permanent signs in the ground that don't move. The course is about as short as Stanford's Track.As for results, the results are supposed to be here:http://www.lehigh.edu/~inpshort/PSLayer.htm
drcurran wrote:
Off the subject a little, but does anyone know where to find full set of results? The "official" Paul Short web site seems to be down / unavailable. Thanks
The Paul Short E-mail group was sent the following:
There appears to be some sort of temporary problem with the part of
the Lehigh server that holds some of our files.
Please use the following url for the next day or two until we
straighten things out.
http://www.natprepwrestling.com/PaulShort/PSLayer.htmgdfgf wrote:
mrr82...do you do anything other than post? Seriously, do you train at all to improve your running or do you just talk about good runners?
I do train, both for the javelin and the 800 hopefully this indoor season and the decathalon maybe next year as well if thing go well, would you prefer i ran 800 miles a week? because that's about how many it would take to have no free time to post. I'm not the most talented athlete, i don't claim to be. But i have improved in the javelin every year i've competed in it (jr year in hs during hte decathalon) through 5 years in college and hopefully next year as well. 151/164/169/171/177/180/182/?
And whoever TYU is i appreciate the kind words.
I was just wondering, best of luck with your training. I hope you achieve your goals and than some.
267 guys under 27? Wow