he seems like he’s fitter than everyone right now and has insane closing speed. i think he’s our best shot.
he seems like he’s fitter than everyone right now and has insane closing speed. i think he’s our best shot.
No doubt. The year centrowitz won worlds in the 1500, he closed in 26 mid to win in 344. Hocker closed in 25 to run 3:53 at ncaas, then an hour later closed in 25 to win the 3k in 746.
I hope so...or Cooper Teare.
I'm very suspicious and I rarely throw my support anywhere freely.
But I find Teare, Hocker and (actually) Evert Silva likeable...as well as Nico Young and even Abdelhamid Nur.
I think there's a great competition coming up.
Unless Hocker gets cold feet or injured there’s no reason he shouldn’t be on that bus. Two 25.xx last 200’s within an hour on incredibly fast times to begin with is outstanding. If he can hang with quick paces Jakob better watch out.....
I am not counting out Reinhardt Harrison, seriously. If that workout was real and he’s improving at the rate most 17yo’s do....sky is the limit.
Hocker couldn't hang with Jakob today due to Jakob's high lactate threshold. A 3:51 mile isn't comparable to 3:28 at all.
Bookmarking this thread so I can come back and clown the OP when hocker gets shat on
dndbxbxhxjxjx wrote:
I am not counting out Reinhardt Harrison, seriously. If that workout was real and he’s improving at the rate most 17yo’s do....sky is the limit.
i’m sure he can perform well at the trials but he’s got a 2% chance to make the team and a .0000000000001% chance to medal. He’s gonna be dangerous in the future though. Hocker is our best bet to medal
flccfinalistt wrote:
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By who exactly? Name names, not a long list ;)
As stated already last month after Hocker and Teare´s 3:50 mile run these 2 must be the foremost favorites to the US 1500m team.
They seem to be at least 1 level over everyone else at the moment.
Next contenders could Engels, Prakel, Fisher (if he makes a try).
I doubt if Nico Young has the level at the moment. And I think Nico is more likely to run longer distances.
I am skeptical about Centro. He doeesn´t seem to be very interested in running anymore (an inactive 2020 season) and his former finishing speed has faded. I doubt that he can go faster than around 3:35 (and only if he makes a wholehearted effort to come back in shape).
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But it is possibly to early for Hocker (or Teare) to get a medal at the Olympics). Their 3:50 mile times equals 3:33 in the 1500m and that is still almost 5 seconds away from Timothy and Jakob and 4 seconds behind Jake Wightman. And there are also McSweyn and Hoare to take into consideration.
But it could be interesting to see Hocker and Teare in DL Monaco. In a well paced race they might go close to 3:30?
Centrowitz always starts his seasons slow and peaks when it counts. And he's basically always a medal threat. How does lrc forget this. Every. Single. Year?
Renewed Marathoner wrote:
Centrowitz always starts his seasons slow and peaks when it counts. And he's basically always a medal threat. How does lrc forget this. Every. Single. Year?
Like 2016 when he was on fire indoors and carried it into outdoor season?
Centro will get buried in the last lap this near no matter the speed heading into it, and he knows it.
The last thing he wants to be known as, is the "slow" guy, even that's what he is now as far as many are concerned. Better to just let it go.
good kidd madd city wrote:
Renewed Marathoner wrote:
Centrowitz always starts his seasons slow and peaks when it counts. And he's basically always a medal threat. How does lrc forget this. Every. Single. Year?
Like 2016 when he was on fire indoors and carried it into outdoor season?
No, like 2016 when he got trashed by Clayton Murphy in Portland running 3:41, then won the Olympics.
CENTRO..,
Shelby Houlihan or Elle Purrier have the best chance at 1500
Cheryiout and Ingebrigtsen are going 1-2. Then, any USA runner will have to beat out 2 other Kenyans, the other Ingebrigtsen, the UK guys, the Aussie guys, and a few other really talented Africans (both North and East). A medal is going to be a tough task.
He is not. Indoor times are all well and good, but we have been fooled too many times by them.
You guys forget that Johnny gregorek ran a 3:49 mile but ended up last in the trials in 2019. Beating a bunch of 3:55 milers with a fast closing 200m is not equivalent to medaling at the olympics when you're racing people who have run 3:28 1500 or 1:43 800m. Centros gold in 2016 was maybe not a 'fluke', but after his gold the kenyans understand that they have to make it a fast race in order to win. Fact of the matter is that Centro is still the best hope for USA to medal. Centro has run 3:31 and 13 flat so he has the fitness and he also has the kick to compete with Lewandovski, Big Makh etc. Final will probably look like 2017 and 19 where one or two guys go out fast and pick up the gold, while 5 or 6 others compete for whats left.
In recent years, Centro has struggled early and just come back from injury to enough health to go 1 or 2 in the trials. But that's not optimal. Now, he did outkick Hocker in the 5000m months ago and he ran 3:40 already. So, he is starting from a much higher baseline than any year since 2016, I believe. Right now, Hocker and Teare, but especially Hocker because of his speed, look like contenders, since none of the other guys have showed themselves yet to be 3:31-32 guys, other than Centro near his best. On that Oregon team, Charlie Hunter, though an Aussie, looks to me like a future star on the world stage or at least a contender. He reminds me of Wheating but more confident. He has run 1:45i/3:53i this year. But 1:45 from out of traffic in a tactical final suggested he had much more in the tank. I predict 1:43 this year. The only caveat is that he's already 24 and will be 25 in July, so he is probably within a year or two of his ceiling.
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
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