Team Sky/GB cycling doctor found guilty of doping.
https://twitter.com/JoshBell_/status/1370311531070693376?s=19
Team Sky/GB cycling doctor found guilty of doping.
https://twitter.com/JoshBell_/status/1370311531070693376?s=19
Well considering that the only way to compete in cycling is to be rich enough to afford a ridiculously expensive bike, rich people are much more likely to 'know a guy' who could set them up with some PED's, so it doesn't surprise me.
This is a huge huge story.
However I doubt if they will track it to a particular cyclist.
So all medals now tainted.
Will they do retro refined tests just looking for testo?
It's a bit like comparing Al Sal and his athletes to rampant Kenyan doping, except this isn't even the same sport (as running).
Cycling has always been the most doped sport there is. Probably most teams are still doping with EPO etc, but because British anti-doping is so strong, an illicit testogel prescription is rightly investigated with all the consequences to follow.
However, if the conclusion is that this somehow proves that British athletics is dirty, then you're simply proving the opposite.
Spades Detectors wrote:
It's a bit like comparing Al Sal and his athletes to rampant Kenyan doping, except this isn't even the same sport (as running).
Cycling has always been the most doped sport there is. Probably most teams are still doping with EPO etc, but because British anti-doping is so strong, an illicit testogel prescription is rightly investigated with all the consequences to follow.
However, if the conclusion is that this somehow proves that British athletics is dirty, then you're simply proving the opposite.
Right.
Drugs are rampant among the endurance sport of cycling in Britain which proves that British runners are not dirty.
Makes sense
British cycling is as dirty as hell, from the top to the bottom. No doubt it will come out that the gel was ordered for some B grade cyclists that no-one has heard of and who never went to the Olympics, just to keep the spotlight off of their top cyclists
Not bad - this goes literally all the way to the top.
MPTS chair Neil Dalton to Dr Freeman: "The tribunal had found that you, Dr Freeman placed the order, and obtained the Testogel, knowing or believing it was to be administered to an athlete to improve their athletic performance. The motive ... was to conceal a conduct."
Yet no one tested positive.
This shows once more, like in the Salazar case, how weak the testing is and/or how corrupt the so-called "anti"-doping agencies are (for example USADA with their warning calls in OOC testing).
https://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/56367117This is the verdict that many involved in British Cycling and Team Sky were dreading.
Dr Freeman was the top medic at both organisations during a period of unprecedented success on both the road and track. For years he worked closely with some of British sport's biggest names. From Sir Bradley Wiggins and Sir Dave Brailsford to psychologist Dr Steve Peters.
2thespokes!
casual obsever wrote:
Not bad - this goes literally all the way to the top.
Sir Bradley Wiggins?
now Dr Freeman has to come clean.
he should be given life imprisonment unless he drops everyone in it.
The testing is clearly utter nonsense.
After all, team GB were always behind the Russians until they caught up and surpassed them at two Olympic games in which the latter were running a state sponsored doping programme.
We’re supposed to believe it was all down to sports psychology and exercise science. Comical.
"Testogel purchased in the second year of Team Sky"
Hope Froome (GBR) is stripped of his title and vacated like they did to Lance Armstrong (USA).
More proof that the top three British endurance athletes (Froome, Farrah, Radcliffe) were all doped up.
Time Sky is an ongoing joke. Absolutely the British ate doping. It is easily reflected in Olympic medal counts, cycling, etc. My guess is GB got sick of losing to cheats and went full Spain 1990s.
I think these issue with with Team GB cycling and UKA doctors crossing the line comes back to how sport is funded here. The sporting associations get lottery money (essentially government funding) depending on the number of medals.
It's ridiculous really that things like the skeleton in the winter olympics get a whole lot of funding, while being completely inaccessible to virtually everyone. Funding should be based on how much it contributes to the community and public health.
Spades Detectors wrote:
Cycling has always been the most doped sport there is.
Ten years ago, yes, maybe it looked like that. Now? We have a learned a lot in the last ten years about cheating in athletics:
1) For years, the IAAF president accepted bribes in exchange for covering up positives.
2) 44% of the elite or more are dopers, worldwide on average.
3) Among the endurance athletes, 15 - 20% use blood doping.
4) NOP's coach used testo as an athlete, and is now banned for three other doping infractions.
5) Aden's group used EPO on a large scale, yet nobody tested positive.
6) Russians used hard core state doping, only discovered via whistle-blowing. Some of their hard core EPO users like Poistogova never even got flagged by the ABP with its huge thresholds.
7) Kenyans are testing positive en masse, since regular blood testing started there, including:
a) Olympic champ and World champ Kiprop, last decade's fastest 1500 m runner;
b) Kiptum, previous half marathon world record holder
c) Olympic champ Sumgong
d) Majors winners Jeptoo and Daniel Wanjiru
e) in total about a dozen of Rosa athletes
8) other stars including Kipsang, ex marathon world record holder, E. Manangoi, world champion and Cheruiyot’s teammate, Coleman (World champ), Rollins (Olympic champ) all (in part still provisionally) banned for various doping infractions
9) more sprint stars banned for doping after positive tests, including Gay (multiple World champ), Blake (World champ + Olympic silver), Powell (previous 100 m world record holder)
10) both Bahraini’s last Olympic medal winners banned for doping after positive tests: Jebet (previous 3000 m steeple world record holder and Olympic champ) and Kirwa (Olympic silver).
Last but not least, here is a direct comparison of abnormal blood scores in cycling and athletics:
http://features.thesundaytimes.co.uk/web/public/2015/the-doping-scandal/assets/images/cycling.jpgSunday times wrote:
The use of the performance-enhancing drug EPO is known to have been rife in cycling in the early 2000s. However, the database shows that in some of those years the proportion of abnormal blood test results recorded in athletics was significantly higher than in cycling.
bambam wrote:
Funding should be based on how much it contributes to the community and public health.
that's an interesting idea. what would that look like?
Brits have long had a state sponsored doping program. Cheating is their MO. The brit government became involved in doping because their population desperately needs a morale boost. They have first world aspirations but live in a third world sh-thole. They need medals to take steer the population's attention away from their misery. They would be better off taking the money that they plow into their cheating program and use it to fix their teeth. Dental hygiene is a disgrace in England. It is so nasty. If they had better teeth, they would feel better about themselves and wouldn't have to live through the "success" of their doping cheaters athletes.
casual obsever wrote:
Not bad - this goes literally all the way to the top.
all the way to the top? jeez! the Queen has had a tough week with all this Harry and Megan stuff...so lets give her a pass on this
catch wrote:
casual obsever wrote:
Not bad - this goes literally all the way to the top.
all the way to the top? jeez! the Queen has had a tough week with all this Harry and Megan stuff...so lets give her a pass on this
Pretty sad when the top of one country is a 100 year old innerbred parasite and the top of another country is an orange morbidly obese pathologically lying con man leech.
