Mo Farah to Joshua Cheptegei: "the Olympics is not just a time trial, is it?”

Is it a bribery? I can't understand how he won in 2016.

Mo's just hoping Joshua won't run him into oblivion in every round.

Cheptegei can turn it into a time trial and I doubt Mo can hang at sub 26:20 pace.

Anyway, do we have a link for the Gate of Africa half marathon today??

i like Mo but he’s gonna get completely lit up by these time trial monsters. they’re gonna drop sub 26:30 pace and no wont be able to hang

Mo can not win a time trial or a tactical race at this point. What he did in 2016 was a good achievement for his age. He is way too old now. Probably only something like 3:35 in the 1500. Maybe not even.

sadsadday wrote:

i like Mo but he’s gonna get completely lit up by these time trial monsters. they’re gonna drop sub 26:30 pace and no wont be able to hang

I don't know if they will go that fast. If there are two or three very good time trialers in the race, they may have the fear that they will blow up and miss out. Hopefully they go in with the Ricky Bobby mentality. If you ain't first, you're last! Just go for it.

38 is too old? Says who?

high school xc coach wrote:

sadsadday wrote:

i like Mo but he’s gonna get completely lit up by these time trial monsters. they’re gonna drop sub 26:30 pace and no wont be able to hang

I don't know if they will go that fast. If there are two or three very good time trialers in the race, they may have the fear that they will blow up and miss out. Hopefully they go in with the Ricky Bobby mentality. If you ain't first, you're last! Just go for it.

Between Cheptegei, Kiplimo, Kipruto and Kandie I feel confident they’ll be running sub-27 pace practically from the gun. It will be like a time trial for Mo, but not quite so for these guys, and they’ll drop Mo like a bad habit when they accelerate in the latter stages. I won’t be surprised if Mo DNF’s due to the masive blow to his ego.

John Wesley Harding wrote:

high school xc coach wrote:

I don't know if they will go that fast. If there are two or three very good time trialers in the race, they may have the fear that they will blow up and miss out. Hopefully they go in with the Ricky Bobby mentality. If you ain't first, you're last! Just go for it.

Between Cheptegei, Kiplimo, Kipruto and Kandie I feel confident they’ll be running sub-27 pace practically from the gun. It will be like a time trial for Mo, but not quite so for these guys, and they’ll drop Mo like a bad habit when they accelerate in the latter stages. I won’t be surprised if Mo DNF’s due to the masive blow to his ego.

I agree with this. Cheptegei ran 55-56 for his last lap at 26:48 pace. Mo has never closed that fast in a sub-27 race and probably cannot. I can't see anybody beating Cheptegei unless he's lost a step since 2019/20.

birdbeard wrote:

Mo has never closed that fast in a sub-27 race

Sure he has - twice in fact.

birdbeard wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Between Cheptegei, Kiplimo, Kipruto and Kandie I feel confident they’ll be running sub-27 pace practically from the gun. It will be like a time trial for Mo, but not quite so for these guys, and they’ll drop Mo like a bad habit when they accelerate in the latter stages. I won’t be surprised if Mo DNF’s due to the masive blow to his ego.

I agree with this. Cheptegei ran 55-56 for his last lap at 26:48 pace. Mo has never closed that fast in a sub-27 race and probably cannot. I can't see anybody beating Cheptegei unless he's lost a step since 2019/20.

Yes he has. I doubt he could do it now though

birdbeard wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Lol GTFOH.

He's old now and will lose, but don't get your facts wrong.

Between Cheptegei, Kiplimo, Kipruto and Kandie I feel confident they’ll be running sub-27 pace practically from the gun. It will be like a time trial for Mo, but not quite so for these guys, and they’ll drop Mo like a bad habit when they accelerate in the latter stages. I won’t be surprised if Mo DNF’s due to the masive blow to his ego.

I agree with this. Cheptegei ran 55-56 for his last lap at 26:48 pace. Mo has never closed that fast in a sub-27 race and probably cannot. I can't see anybody beating Cheptegei unless he's lost a step since 2019/20.

The marathon screwed with his doped up head. His body was too weak for that and the best runners chased the money in the mrathon. No money in 10k except on the roads. No way he has 328 1500m speed anymore. He would have to pay off a handful of guys or hope they stop doping (and he does not).

I posted this way back in the day, but:

birdbeard wrote:

Cheptegei closed Doha, a 26:48 race, in 55.39. Here's how that compares to the other legends in similar situations (tried to only include sub-27:10 races).

Farah --

2015 -- Closed 27:01 race in 54.1

2016 -- Closed 27:05 race in 55.3

2017 -- Closed 26:49 race in 55.6

Bekele:

2003 -- Closed his famous 26:49 duel with Haile G. in 55.02

2004 -- Closed 27:05 race in 53.02

2005 -- Closed 27:08 race in 54.2

2007 -- Closed 27:05 race in 55.9

2008 -- Closed 27:01 race in 53.4

2009 -- Closed 26:45 race in 56.20

Geb:

1995 -- Closed a 27:12 race in 56.3

1996 -- Closed 27:07 in 57.49

2000 -- Closed 27:18 in 56.56 (only included this one because of the legendary kick vs. Tergat)/

I actually think people are sleeping on Moh Ahmed in the 10k. He's shown that he can time trial really well with his 12:47, and he still has some impressive wheels over a last lap.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ahmed snags a medal off a 26:30-26:45 pace.

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I actually think people are sleeping on Moh Ahmed in the 10k. He's shown that he can time trial really well with his 12:47, and he still has some impressive wheels over a last lap.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ahmed snags a medal off a 26:30-26:45 pace.

Had him 3rd in 26:45 here:

I miss the 10K qualifiers.

John Wesley Harding wrote:

` wrote:

I actually think people are sleeping on Moh Ahmed in the 10k. He's shown that he can time trial really well with his 12:47, and he still has some impressive wheels over a last lap.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ahmed snags a medal off a 26:30-26:45 pace.

Had him 3rd in 26:45 here:

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=10391651&page=1

I admit to sleeping on him a little, but only because there are so many dudes with mind-boggling talent in the 10,000. Any other year, I would have him in the medals. I think I would pick him over Mo Farah at this point in their careers, too.

But when you think about Cheptegei, Kiplimo, Kipruto, Kandie, and Kejelcha, all have a world title or a WR and a bunch of credentials that overshadow that perfect-conditioned 12:47 for me. That's not even considering that we have Kwemoi (26:55 in Doha, 4th) and Belihu (really hope that's not the one that died, but also sub-27 and 5th in Doha), plus some other wildcards like Gebrhiwet and Lomong. The 10,000 is definitely the most stacked Oly distance on the men's side if all those dudes run. Mead may double, too (although it sounds like Cheptegei's initial plan at least is to double as well).

Kiplimo & Cheptegei would probably be 1-2 favorites in the 5000 if they run it, Kejelcha close behind. Not sure if Kandie and Kipruto have the range to dip down that low -- I don't think Kipruto has the wheels.

` wrote:

I actually think people are sleeping on Moh Ahmed in the 10k. He's shown that he can time trial really well with his 12:47, and he still has some impressive wheels over a last lap.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ahmed snags a medal off a 26:30-26:45 pace.

I think Mo Ahmed can win a medal, but highly doubt he can win. I still don't think he has the speed at the end. A 58 last lap for him is a big deal. He's definitely capable of a 26:40 type race though to be in the mix at the end.

I cant wait for Mo Farah to get chewed up and spat out.

I can't wait to watch the BBCs coverage.

I'd love to see him get busted for his obvious doping aswell but that's maybe alot to ask. I'll take the first two. They are a given.