Seriously, what's the covid endgame?

Yeah and I'm sure there will be a fifth wave, a sixth wave, and a seventh wave, and you'll blame the people who only wear two instead of three masks.

non half breed wrote:

Harambe wrote:

I just want answers. Do you have them?

Shut up, uneducated gay democrat half breed.

Lost the election. 400k and counting dead. Trump not going away and will thus drag the GOP down with him. Biden undoing all of Trumps accomplishments in the first 20 days. Biden doubles vaccines in arms a few weeks after he takes office. The list goes on.

You all have taken a record number of Ls in the last few months. Let's see how far this goes!

Second verse same as the first wrote:

Yeah and I'm sure there will be a fifth wave, a sixth wave, and a seventh wave, and you'll blame the people who only wear two instead of three masks.

It seems likely that B117 and other variants will break through the pretty weak controls we have when they become the dominant circulating strains in ~March. Cases may rise again. My hope is that we will have vaccinated a lot of the highly vulnerable people already so hospitalizations and deaths won't spike as sharply.

Recovery isn't a good metric. But you know this. What if it was recovery but 50% loss of IQ (this might be true ;) ) What if it was recovery but the recovery consumed TONS of healthcare resources (this IS true for for 5-10% of patients) What is spread were exponential so sequestering mild cases prevented MANY severe cases (this IS true too)! Honestly if you live in the US you really can't complain... very few places have had even mildly strict lockdowns. You have had plenty of time to be a "human being" however you define it. IF you are upset that others are choosing to remain vigilant and distanced... well maybe some introspection is the cure! Note I am not even going to mention the mask BS. There is no evidence masks cause respiratory issues. Unless you are implying you are weaker than every ICU nurse, surgeon, carpenter, exterminator, etc. who have all worn masks for every shift for decades... P.S. I just copied and pasted this post from one I made in MAY - get new talking points.

Bullet_Proof wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

Uh Biden is prez bro.

The lockdowns should end immediately. They should end immediately because there is a 99% chance that you recover - even if you get it.

Mask wearing should also end immediately. Prolonged maskwearing, especially while running can potentially cause other respiratory issues. Not to mention the horrible effects it has on social cohesion.

2600 bro and Harambe fail to realize that we all are human beings. We are social animals and we need socializing to thrive and live a wonderful life. Screen meetings are not a substitute. They also have clearly established themselves as 100% afraid of death, an inevitable piece of the life puzzle.

2600 bro wrote:

P.S. I just copied and pasted this post from one I made in MAY - get new talking points.

Lol -- pwnt into the next dimension

1.) 100% disagree that recovery isnt a good metric. Recovery is the most important metric. I think it is morally wrong of you to gaslight others into thinking that superfluous metrics are more important.

2.) "What if" arguments do not prove anything. But you know this.

3.) "Others choosing to stay vigilant and distance" is a euphemism for local governments, institutions, corporations imposing lockdown measures which harm others. The biggest trick the devil pulled was convincing the world that the number of cases is more important to fixate on, then the reality of the recovery rate.

4.) Prolonged mask wearing while exercising is what I was talking about, not casually strolling through a grocery store with a mask on. Do I need to spoon feed you the scientific literature on that subject?

5.) "I just copied and pasted this post from one I made in MAY" Yes, it is still dumb.

6.) Extra credit: you and Try-Hard Harambe have yet to explain why you are so afraid of death. "Oh I am not afraid, I just dont want to give it to others." But if they have a 99% chance of surviving as well, even if you give it to them, then honestly what are you afraid of?

Clown World Resident wrote:

This is Jim Kiler wrote:

I can't believe this thread is still standing, but regardless, nobody seems to realize that if we hadn't done all the crazy stuff we've done, we'd have something like 1.5 MILLION dead by now.

Wow, I didn't know Trump saved over 1 million lives. You would think he would get more credit for that.

No, the former president did not save over 1 million lives, he caused a few hundred thousand deaths, though.

Just look at the stories from last March, the "worst case" scenarios. The former administration talked about this, the hope was keeping deaths overall down to about 250K.

The pandemic was/is bound to end, it's just how we've managed it. Which is to say, overall, not very well.

Uhhh, the endgame is whatever they want it to be. If they want to make you suffer more they will. Crap can be introduced or made up as they go along. Likely not enough would complain even if this went on for another 20 years. It would take an organized pissed off people to bring these criminals down, but I can't see that happening.

1) So all that matters to you is if people die? Then you are not qualified to comment here. Sustained severe illness doesnt matter? Permanent effects don't matter? Overall burden of the disease on the healthcare system or society doesn't matter? You're funny. An example: Malaria kills many many people, but it makes way way more just very sick - especially children. Having to care for these sick children is a huge economic burden in development tropical countries. Another one: Having to convert entire floors of hospitals to ICU (see: most heavily hit US cities in November/December) denies other people healthcare - if COVID-19 wasn't spreading super fast this wouldn't be necessary I think you know this but are just being obtuse so as not to "lose." Makes me think you were never a runner. 2) Just trying to make you realize there are situations where your "death" qualification is hilarious 3) Lockdown measures in the US have been essentially nothing. Banning large indoor gathers is the ONLY consistent measure. School closures are by-and-large a bad idea until hospitals are at their brink. 4) Yes, spoon feed me! Clever attempt to hide having NO evidence - I like the rhetoric! 5) I enjoy the rage :) 6) Deaths are bad, burdened healthcare system is bad, enforced restrictions are bad, voluntary restrictions are bad (see Sweden's GDP down more then neighbors under their voluntary system) - all these things can be avoided if the virus isn't allowed to spread. It can be done. There are many examples globally. We missed the boat on early action in Februrary so I doubt much could've changed. Luckily we are being bailed out by the vaccine - only cost 500k lives and countless billions of dollars.

This dumbo's whole argument is that a 99% survival rate is not something to worry about. It's intentionally obtuse or he's actually mathematically illiterate. Hard to say but he's at best an average mind trying to troll with the legends.

Firstly, a highly communicable disease with a 1% death rate is very bad. That's 3 million deaths in the USA! That's 70 million deaths worldwide! Something that is airborne transmissible can easily spread to 100, 1000, 1 billion people and kill many despite relatively low fatality rates. That's the entire crux of the issue that this dude blows right past in his ignorance.

Secondly, plenty of sub-populations are exposed to greater than 1% risk and evidence has demonstrated it's impossible to keep them effectively isolated. We had nursing home outbreaks in December when everyone knew from months of experience that's the one thing you want to avoid.

Thirdly, avoiding getting Covid means you're not a reservoir for mutational exploration towards escape variants. I.e. less people infected = less chance of a truly devastating escape variant emerging that allows reinfection and greatly limits vaccine effectiveness.

Finally, "Why are you so afraid of death?" is just not the hard-hitting argument you think it is. If that's what you're reduced to questions then I'm happy to place you in the esteemed bucket of "death isn't actually bad" takes we've seen from embarrassed posters every few weeks.

We are almost back to the "death isn't bad - it's actually good!" takes we heard about Sweden.

Is this one poster posing as 2 mega clowns? Do you have anything better to do than trying to force BS down peoples throats? You are done and you don't even realize it. How sad.

we are. wrote:

Is this one poster posing as 2 mega clowns? Do you have anything better to do than trying to force BS down peoples throats? You are done and you don't even realize it. How sad.

Do you realize that you are being really stupid?

MEGACLOWN I like it - thanks!

we are. wrote:

Is this one poster posing as 2 mega clowns? Do you have anything better to do than trying to force BS down peoples throats? You are done and you don't even realize it. How sad.

2600 bro wrote:

Makes me think you were never a runner.

Even to a guy like me, that's cold.

I ran 5 miles this morning. How about you?