China is opened up fully and rubbing it in our face--they are dancing and having concerts like normal.
Should the US have done a true shutdown in March? How would people have gotten supplies and would the NG have enforced it, on every street corner?
Also I had no issues with the lockdown but then when the riots happened people were contact-tested. They were not allowed to ask their subjects if they had been in riots. Hmmm...
placp wrote:
when all the wealth is in the hands of the corporations and we are begging for our UBI. That's my honest attempt to answer.
this has been an epic assault on the middle class, the ramifications of which we have not begun to see
Buy bitcoin.
Brave New Normal
CarbonFiberJoe wrote:
We just need all these restrictions until there's a vaccine... okay, fair enough.
Now we need "90% vaccinated" (not going to happen), and even then we still have to wear masks, and even then the vaccines might not work?
What's the actual, no-goalposts-moving end goal here?
It's just two weeks, it's just a mask, it's just a lockdown, it's just unemployment, it's just your kids education, it's just depression, it's just suicide rates, it's just your small business, it's just homicides and domestic abuse, it's just until a vaccine, it's just until herd immunity, it's just until the variants are under control blah blah blah
Moron#5 wrote:
Lead Foil Hat wrote:
What kind of trolling is this. Mock someone for asking a legit question. What are we doing here in 2021? The endgame should be in 2 months the only thing we do to battle this corona virus is offer people the option of a vaccine and then move on and ignore the children who cannot handle the reality of one deadly virus while ignoring the reality of other deadly things we live with every day. A big vaccine push should occur and then the world should move on, not get sucked down a perpetual hole of panic, isolation and nonsense to appease weak minded rich people.
You aren’t very bright either. Part of the reason there is no endgame is because of people like you. You also have to understand the vaccine is not some magical elixir. You are not bright enough for this subject.
A few months ago every liberal I know was lecturing me about waiting 'just a little bit longer' for the vaccine, acting like it was a magical elixir. Now that it's here, suddenly they're scoffing at people who are acting like it's a magical elixir. In a few more months, they will be scoffing about the idea of returning to normal before complete eradication.
We could take a page out of cuomo's book and just kill everyone at risk
I live in Michigan. We have given 1.1 million first doses of the vaccine so far. Our numbers are already dramatically falling, from over 4,000 in the hospital for Covid to less than a 1,000 now. Of people that have died of Covid in Michigan, 96.6% have been over 50 years old. The 50 and older population of Michigan is about 3.8 million. So I figure if Michigan vaccinates another 2.9 million people and it should greatly reduce the risk of death for the older poplution and things can pretty much return to somewhat normal.
I can see the vaccine being given out yearly going forward though.
There is no endgame. COVID is endemic and we will be getting booster shots once a year and wearing masks for the next five years. People will continue to wear masks for eternity in high density areas. Eventually there will be a contact tracing program robust enough we can manage specific areas that will see spikes a la amber alert-esque technology.
I'm glad I ran my first marathon in the fall of 2019.
Columbus hasn't said anything yet--they sent out a dire email to wait a bit longer this morning.
Good points about the endgame. I have no issue with the amber alerts but I could see everything opening up and closing whenever there's a big spike.
jecht wrote:
I'm glad I ran my first marathon in the fall of 2019.
Columbus hasn't said anything yet--they sent out a dire email to wait a bit longer this morning.
Good points about the endgame. I have no issue with the amber alerts but I could see everything opening up and closing whenever there's a big spike.
I think transmission will remain low enough to where it's almost like a weather alert. They won't shut everything down but will at least alert the masses of a surge in your specific area.
I doubt this. COVID has a much lower mutation rate than the flu - without large selection reservoirs (infected people) we won't see new strains popping up quickly. However it is crucial we nip the current diversification events in the bud with vaxxing ASAP so we don't get 25 virulent strains circulating because we continue to allow ongoing selection for R0 and vax evasion in these large infected populations.
HOOWIEE wrote:
There is no endgame. COVID is endemic and we will be getting booster shots once a year and wearing masks for the next five years. People will continue to wear masks for eternity in high density areas. Eventually there will be a contact tracing program robust enough we can manage specific areas that will see spikes a la amber alert-esque technology.
Destruction of economic independence and so slavery for the vast majority of people
2600 bro wrote:
Sad your other troll thread fell off the front page? so you had to make a new one?
Yawn.
Someone is scared by the posing of obvious questions.
tag others all the time wrote:
No end game. When anyone who wants a vaccine can get one, things will go back to mostly normal. Normal people aren’t going to wait around for anti vaxers. Probably by July you will no longer feel the need to start threads like this.
12 months in and I still don't personally know a soul who has gotten Covid-19.
Media generated pandemic.
Harambe wrote:
they will go the way of Dunes Runner and Allen53 (presumed covid deaths).
You are disgusting.
cmon man! wrote:
CarbonFiberJoe wrote:
We just need all these restrictions until there's a vaccine... okay, fair enough.
Now we need "90% vaccinated" (not going to happen), and even then we still have to wear masks, and even then the vaccines might not work?
What's the actual, no-goalposts-moving end goal here?
Just until we flatten the curve!???
Two more weeks, everyone. We can do it!
No one as prolific as those two just... disappears. We are allowed to ask questions! Why are you trying to censor Harambe!!!
ImpaIa31 wrote:
Harambe wrote:
they will go the way of Dunes Runner and Allen53 (presumed covid deaths).
You are disgusting.
For you to get it, clearly.
Millions of children dying of starvation. Yet that doesn't matter apparently and covid does. Okay government amd media, got it. Sheep.
I am glad you are now onboard for disbursement of hundreds of billions in foreign aid - it's been hard to convince your ilk before - but with this new bipartisan commitment to ending world hunger something very meaningful could happen!
steve the addict. wrote:
Millions of children dying of starvation. Yet that doesn't matter apparently and covid does. Okay government amd media, got it. Sheep.