The forgotten minority

nike shill wrote:

You would think that people would've learned from the past. Yellow peril, the immigration act of 1917, Executive Order 9066, Vincent Chin, and the list goes on. Blaming Asian-Americans for everything seems to be a common theme from the past and apparently the present.

"Blaming Asian-Americans for everything" sounds a little like hyperbole, don't you think?

I would like to remind the historically-illiterate that every single racial and ethnic group has faced some sort persecution or discrimination except for the Protestants and Anglo-Saxans (mainly since they were the ones who first colonized and thus were not victims of nativism. The Irish, Italians, Polish, Jews all faced the same types of persecution as Asians and Blacks (although nobody had it worse than African slaves in the US). This is just how it is when you have a melting pot of different cultures coming together under one nation. I think we have done pretty well so far.

Yeah, sure, he sold out. Seems like a really long-winded way to say "I don't want to contend with his ideas so I am going to try and discredit him by disparaging him as a person"

douglas burke wrote:

We need a TRUE MERITOCRACY in the USA, or all the groups will be resentful of other groups, and it could eventually lead to Balkinization. The Olympic Trials are a True Meritocracy, the top 3 go it does not matter your race, your personality, your past, if you came from wealth or poverty, none of that matters, only who comes in the top 3, and there is no resentment as every one got a fair chance and no one can complain, you can only shake their hand and work harder to try again or try something else, no one can complain, in some cases the best don't make it (Injury, Sickness, Bad Day, ETC.) but since everyone had a fair chance, there is no resentment.

Meritocracy is the precise reason for resentment between ethnic groups. It's why Jews and Asians face persecution everywhere they immigrate to, because they come in and outperform everybody else in trades and academics and the other groups don't like being outshined.

Let it Rupp wrote:

Meritocracy is the precise reason for resentment between ethnic groups. It's why Jews and Asians face persecution everywhere they immigrate to, because they come in and outperform everybody else in trades and academics and the other groups don't like being outshined.

We used to have many unskilled, low wage workers from Asia before they were categorically banned. Were they outperforming and outshining other groups back then?

Let it Rupp wrote:

Asian, NOT forgotten ... wrote:

There are hundreds of White Libertarian or Republican PhD economists. Why do White Libertarians or Republicans in U.S. feel the need to bring up Sowell to make a point? Thomas Sowell is a phony. No one goes from a revolutionary leftist economist to house n .... sellout for no reason. When Thomas Sowell was a college student and economics PhD candidate, Sowell knew of writings of Milton Friedman. Am a supposed to believe as soon as Sowell wanted to make money, Sowell all of a sudden discovered writings of Milton Friedman?

Yeah, sure, he sold out. Seems like a really long-winded way to say "I don't want to contend with his ideas so I am going to try and discredit him by disparaging him as a person"

Contend with his ideas? You must be typing in jest! Sowell last had an original thought when he did his PhD dissertation as a leftist economist. In order to put coins in his pocket, Sowell just asks himself: What would Milton Friedman say or what would Gary S. Becker say? Sowell should have been forced to attempt to defend a PhD dissertation as a typical right wing economist.

The point of this thread is that elderly Asians are being victimized and yes there is some media coverage of it but there is not the level of outrage that you would see if another minority was selected based on race for attack.

I saw more public outrage and media coverage when a 22 white girl tackled a 14 yr. old black kid because she wrongly thought he stole her phone. I saw more media coverage when a white women just called the police wrongly on a black guy.

But here we have vicious racial attacks on the old and weak and no great media outrage or coverage. No personal stories of the victims, their families and the attackers.

My point, Asian lives do matter too, but they are basically ignored in relation to the severity of the attacks.

There are hundreds of White Libertarian or Republican PhD economists. Why do White Libertarians or Republicans in U.S. feel the need to bring up Sowell to make a point? Thomas Sowell is a phony. No one goes from a revolutionary leftist economist to house n .... sellout for no reason. When Thomas Sowell was a college student and economics PhD candidate, Sowell knew of writings of Milton Friedman. Am a supposed to believe as soon as Sowell wanted to make money, Sowell all of a sudden discovered writings of Milton Friedman?

First, to the earlier post calling Thomas Sowell an Uncle Tom, wow. I'm not sure what race you are, but you kind of remind me of the white BLM protesters assaulting and screaming at black cops calling them racists.

Second, a lot of people are leftist idealists when they are younger and get a little older and become realists. I'm one of them for sure. For example, 20 years ago I would have agreed with the calls for equal pay in women's sports. Sounds fair on the surface. Now I see these calls and think, "well that sounds nice, but it actually would bankrupt women's sports if we paid WNBA players what we placed NBA players, then there'd be no women's sports at all."

Capitalism leaves a lot to be desired but the alternative, as beautiful as it sounds on paper, is far worse.

It is not illegal to have low I.Q. and have poor reading comprehension, but it can be dangerous. You just accused me of a post I did not post. Be careful!

In my posts, I addressed element you brought up in your second paragraph. Sowell was not just an uneducated radical in early 1960's. All through the process of writing his PhD dissertation, Sowell no doubt had to defend his leftist arguments against ideas stated by right-leaning economists. Sowell was born in 1930. Milton Friedman was born in 1912. In early 1960's when Sowell was a leftist, he knew full well what were the rational arguments made by those on the right.

In natural sciences or mathematics, no one would get away with advocating for 180 degrees from PhD dissertation. This issue is done. Stop hijacking Asian discrimination thread with your Thomas Sowell nonsense.

Asian lives matter wrote:

My point, Asian lives do matter too, but they are basically ignored in relation to the severity of the attacks.

Pretty sure all the attacks on Asians are investigated by the police if reported.

First, thanks for the personal attack. Maybe you need to check *your* reading comprehension. I referred to "an earlier post" not "YOUR earlier post."

Second, I didn't "hijack the thread" to discuss Thomas Sowell, you did. I dont even know who the hell Thomas Sowell is beyond that he's a black conservative economist. You argued that he was not credible because he changed his mind (or at least changed what he said he believed) over the course of his career. I was simply refuting your argument by arguing that it is not absurd for someone to change their mind as they got older - NOT necessarily due to acquiring new knowledge, but due to a change in perspective (idealism vs. realism).

Sean Joseph Wakefield wrote:

Asian lives matter wrote:

My point, Asian lives do matter too, but they are basically ignored in relation to the severity of the attacks.

Pretty sure all the attacks on Asians are investigated by the police if reported.

Of course I'm not talking about the police doing an investigation and you know that. I'm talking about how we and you and the media react to Asian attacks in relation to the severity of the attacks.

And thank you because your dismissive post of it proves my point

Asian lives matter wrote:

Sean Joseph Wakefield wrote:

Pretty sure all the attacks on Asians are investigated by the police if reported.

Of course I'm not talking about the police doing an investigation and you know that. I'm talking about how we and you and the media react to Asian attacks in relation to the severity of the attacks.

And thank you because your dismissive post of it proves my point

How am I reacting differently? I want the perpetrators held accountable. If some dbags are going around pushing old Asians, arrest them.

Legacy admissions are not race based. This is about race based admission policies.

Like 90 percent of people are ugly in general. And she's not ugly so I'm not sure what you're point it other than to be a jerk.

Anyway, I just learned yesterday that there's an effort in my company to promote Blacks and Hispanics to management, but not Asians. Not really many Asians in management so I'm not sure where this particular exclusion comes from ... So I guess as a half-Asian, half-white, part Hispanic with a Anglo name I have no chance. All this has gotten so out of control.

How about focusing on access to educational opportunities and better job training, and guide the desired results that way? Oh no, that's too hard.

I always loved Asian people, like other nations, they are different by their culture, religion and the way of being which really impressed me for many years. Despite of the fact that there are people that spoils their reputation, there are still those which proves that their nation deserves to be respected. We should respect everybody who deserves it and just take out the rubbish and help those who stepped on the wrong way. I am also an immigrant, I migrated many years ago and now I have a very good life and a pretty good income from my business. I am really glad that there are companies that are always ready to help those people who aspire to a better life. So guys, don't hesitate to move on if you feel that you need to change your place https://visapath.ca/work-permits/

Asian lives matter wrote:

Sean Joseph Wakefield wrote:

Pretty sure all the attacks on Asians are investigated by the police if reported.

Of course I'm not talking about the police doing an investigation and you know that. I'm talking about how we and you and the media react to Asian attacks in relation to the severity of the attacks.

And thank you because your dismissive post of it proves my point

Imagine the number of whites and blacks that would be marching in the streets out of outrage if the target of these attacks were black. Even if white elderly people were being attacked there would be a greater country-wide outrage.

I did see a group protesting for more police protection and for something to be done. I didn't notice any blacks or whites in that protest, only Asian Americans. That was sad. Where are the sports teams addressing this issue. The Asian Americans here have a real reason to be afraid.

There are the forgotten minority.

And they rarely show pictures of those arrested for these crimes. Above is an exception.