LRC mboard vindicated again. It's official. Colleen Quigley has left the BTC.

Cutting somebody who has a 90% of going to the Olympics while carrying about 8 others who have a 10% chance does not make sense.

Somebody intelligent give this lady a raise and a contract please!!

I wouldn't be surprised if other sponsors are looking to sign her and negotiations are very active. She is an athlete that offers far more than just quietly racing. She has great social media presence, branding savvy, and knows how to operate in traditional media. After her racing career, I fully expect that she will be the TV / streaming face of women's distance running for many years to come. I can also see her writing books and becoming a fitness/motivation guru.

If there are tensions amongst the team, I speculate that the cause is what I listed above. There is probably some envy that Ms. Quigley has mapped out a future and is actively pursuing it while many on the team are probably enjoying their final year as professional athletes with Nike. After this year's Trials and Olympics (no guarantee of either at the moment), Nike is going to cut a lot of athlete salaries and anyone over age 26 will be in the crosshairs. Most do not have any real job skills and Nike doesn't hand out "thank you for your service" jobs in sports marketing and product like they used to.

I have a feeling that Puma is closing in on a deal.

Portland Hobby Jogger "Most do not have any real job skills and Nike doesn't hand out "thank you for your service" jobs in sports marketing and product like they used to. " ????????? I think if you look closely at the resume's of most of the BTC team they come from prominent universities with degrees, some with post graduate work as well. Most of them have All Academic honors as well as being All American athletes. Stanford , Georgetown etc. I doubt being an internet sensation is their desired career when they are done competing.

Nope wrote:

Portland Hobby Jogger "Most do not have any real job skills and Nike doesn't hand out "thank you for your service" jobs in sports marketing and product like they used to. " ????????? I think if you look closely at the resume's of most of the BTC team they come from prominent universities with degrees, some with post graduate work as well. Most of them have All Academic honors as well as being All American athletes. Stanford , Georgetown etc. I doubt being an internet sensation is their desired career when they are done competing.

He didn't say they don't have good degrees. He said they don't have skills.

Stanford degree =/= marketable skill (though it may as well with that alumni network).

Colleen's branding and marketing abilities are rare. Sure her looks help but only so much.

Whatever this new contract is - even if it's $250k plus - it's a steal for the company.

Colleen said herself recently in one of her posts - she's never really been one to have a gang of girlfriends and her best friend is her Mom. I don't think there's much to read into re 'tensions' between her and the rest of the ladies on the team. Looks like Colleen is happy doing her own thing and the other girls leave her to it. Fair play to her.

NJyRunner wrote:

Colleen said herself recently in one of her posts - she's never really been one to have a gang of girlfriends and her best friend is her Mom. I don't think there's much to read into re 'tensions' between her and the rest of the ladies on the team. Looks like Colleen is happy doing her own thing and the other girls leave her to it. Fair play to her.

The other girls... happen to be women. Just in case you've never seen one before I thought I'd point some out for you.

how things really work wrote:

Frerichs signed an extension in February 2020 right before the pandemic. Quigley wanted a minimum of what frerichs got after the pandemic had hit. Nike said no and referenced frerichs accomplishments and the current situation with covid. Quigley had already been dropped by Kimbia after a dispute over the mamba 5 structuring(it had Frerichs signature in the insole). This was the last straw for Nike and quigley is gone.

There it is. Someone knows.

Nonsense! wrote:

NJyRunner wrote:

Colleen said herself recently in one of her posts - she's never really been one to have a gang of girlfriends and her best friend is her Mom. I don't think there's much to read into re 'tensions' between her and the rest of the ladies on the team. Looks like Colleen is happy doing her own thing and the other girls leave her to it. Fair play to her.

The other girls... happen to be women. Just in case you've never seen one before I thought I'd point some out for you.

You need to apologize. NJyRunner sounds like a woman and an older one.

What a bunch of fooking gossip girls you fancy lads are....

Those super genetics that get her injured all the time?

She's photogenic for sure, but so are a bunch of other blonde women all over IG.

I am sure she can keep her relationships with BTC professional. But if Nike cuts her, who will coach her in the steeple? Team Boss the only probable place to go but uh oh, more women to be cordial with.

Doubt anyone on that team is jealous of her. Several have medals, and several more have degrees from schools that are 100 times better than Florida State.

how things really work wrote:

Frerichs signed an extension in February 2020 right before the pandemic. Quigley wanted a minimum of what frerichs got after the pandemic had hit. Nike said no and referenced frerichs accomplishments and the current situation with covid. Quigley had already been dropped by Kimbia after a dispute over the mamba 5 structuring(it had Frerichs signature in the insole). This was the last straw for Nike and quigley is gone.

I would think that with COVID, they would be looking to keep runners with strong social media presence, at least until the pandemic is over. People are a lot more active on social media right now.

my pretty pony wrote:

how things really work wrote:

Frerichs signed an extension in February 2020 right before the pandemic. Quigley wanted a minimum of what frerichs got after the pandemic had hit. Nike said no and referenced frerichs accomplishments and the current situation with covid. Quigley had already been dropped by Kimbia after a dispute over the mamba 5 structuring(it had Frerichs signature in the insole). This was the last straw for Nike and quigley is gone.

There it is. Someone knows.

I don't underestimate how often what seems like rumor and speculation on this board often turns out true... but Colleen has been posting herself in BTC and Nike gear, working out with BTC teammates, all month long as the team has been in Flagstaff.

Maybe I'm convinced, though, because a previous poster is correct.. she isn't included or tagged in the team photo posted three days ago.

To someone's point about why they'd keep Gwen and drop Colleen... not everyone has the same contract. An athlete getting dropped doesn't mean they're worthless; it just means the athlete and the brand couldn't agree on what they're worth.

verification of the previous poster who said she was dropped by Kimbia. She is not currently listed on their up to date roster:

http://www.kimbia.net/athletes/

Nope wrote:

Portland Hobby Jogger "Most do not have any real job skills and Nike doesn't hand out "thank you for your service" jobs in sports marketing and product like they used to. " ????????? I think if you look closely at the resume's of most of the BTC team they come from prominent universities with degrees, some with post graduate work as well. Most of them have All Academic honors as well as being All American athletes. Stanford , Georgetown etc. I doubt being an internet sensation is their desired career when they are done competing.

A recruiter is interviewing two people for a job at a major company. One is a 23 year old Kent State University grad fresh out of college, the other is a Stanford graduate from the Class of 2013 that has been a professional runner for the past seven years.

Recruiter: “Please tell me about your prior work and internship experience?”

Kent State ’20: Thank you for asking. Between my sophomore and junior years, I did a three month internship at Citibank in New York. During that summer, I developed a risk assessment tool that accurately predicted default probabilities on loans to small businesses in the retail and food services sectors. The summer prior to my senior year, I returned to New York and interned at Goldman Sachs. I worked with a team of other finance students developing predictive analytics that warned traders of potential foreign currency valuation issues.

Stanford ’13: I was a professional distance runner on a Nike sponsored club. I raced on the track and almost made the Olympic team and ran at two World Championships. I was the second best U.S. 5,000 meter runner one year. I ran twice a day, lifted weights, took naps, and then posted pictures of my teammates and I on Instagram. I tried blogging for a while but, it started cutting into my training and recovery time. I traveled to Europe to do a few races each summer and to high altitude places like Park City, UT and Flagstaff, AZ every year to do training. Sometimes, the footwear designers at Nike would ask for my opinions about prototype shoes and would have me test new shoes. Other than that, I did some promotional work giving talks at local running stores and posing for pictures with kids at large high school track meets.

Tell me, who is more likely to get hired despite one possessing an elite university degree? It's a hard sell for a 30 year old with no real work experience and a dated degree when younger candidates with fresher, more meaningful skills are readily available.

I'm hiring the person with more life experience who performed at a high level under pressure. The extra week or 2 it takes the Stanford grad to get up to speed is a small price to pay for hiring the superior candidate. This is a no brainer.

flgrnnr wrote:

In Flagstaff. Quigley has been out training alone and not with BTC. Rumor in town is she is off BTC, no Nike deal, and is without a sponsor. Anyone confirm?

you just confirmed it. you are with btc and felt a need to leak this .

It probably would depend on the job, but I would think Stanford '13 could impress the recruiter by emphasizing her focus, discipline, self-starter nature, and proven ability to work steadily towards a goal for a sustained period, as well as her life experiences. Also, even saying, "Olympic Trials" would impress a lot of recruiters. She'd just have to convince them that she was done with that part of her life and could put the same enthusiasm towards managing Proctor & Gamble product lines or whatever.

Along those lines, I wonder what Liz Costello is doing these days. She was a Princeton grad who ran the 10K for New Balance and wrote occasional articles for Runners World. In one of them, she noted how strange it felt going to her class reunion (maybe 5-year?) and still basically doing the same thing she had in college while all her friends were getting on with their adult lives. I think she might have been 5th or 6th in the USATF 10K a couple of times, but I haven't heard of her recently, so I wouldn't be surprised if she's no longer a pro. With a Princeton degree, she ought to be reasonably marketable.

Banned in 60 Seconds wrote:

[quote]Nope wrote:

Portland Hobby Jogger "Most do not have any real job skills and Nike doesn't hand out "thank you for your service" jobs in sports marketing and product like they used to. " ????????? I think if you look closely at the resume's of most of the BTC team they come from prominent universities with degrees, some with post graduate work as well. Most of them have All Academic honors as well as being All American athletes. Stanford , Georgetown etc. I doubt being an internet sensation is their desired career when they are done competing.

A recruiter is interviewing two people for a job at a major company. One is a 23 year old Kent State University grad fresh out of college, the other is a Stanford graduate from the Class of 2013 that has been a professional runner for the past seven years.

Recruiter: “Please tell me about your prior work and internship experience?”

Kent State ’20: Thank you for asking. Between my sophomore and junior years, I did a three month internship at Citibank in New York. During that summer, I developed a risk assessment tool that accurately predicted default probabilities on loans to small businesses in the retail and food services sectors. The summer prior to my senior year, I returned to New York and interned at Goldman Sachs. I worked with a team of other finance students developing predictive analytics that warned traders of potential foreign currency valuation issues.

How many Kent State alums make it at Goldman?