I am seriously considering quitting running

David, have you thought about becoming a marathoner? You are persistent and obviously not a quitter. With a 6:00 mile PR, you have the potential to be pretty good. Until your PF heals, start doing some pool running every day. Lift some weights. Do some hiking or power walking if it doesn't hurt.

I'd like to offer my own insight.

I'm a runner with 'no talent'. I'd be willing to wager I'm of similar or less talent than David45. I never broke 10 minutes in the 3k as a teenager. Now at 22, I'm targetting sub-70 in the half, yes I'm running half marathons faster than I ran the 3k a few short years ago. How? Partly because I'm a late bloomer who got older, but mostly by training properly.

I was following a low-mileage, high-intensity plan which didn't work for me. My body couldn't handle the mileage and I kept getting injured. I now run high (alright, not as high as some) mileage (70 MPW) and none of my sessions are all-out effort. I've never felt fitter or enjoyed my running more.

There is also more to running than just running (as dumb as it sounds)

You HAVE to eat enough. Your body MUST replace the calories burnt on a run. This is not optional. If your body doesn't have the fuel it needs, you WILL get injured. You can't be a runner on a 2000 calorie diet.

You HAVE to sleep enough. Your body needs REM sleep in order to repair the rips in your muscles caused by intense exercise. You can't sleep 5 hours per night and be a runner.

Getting injured off 20 MPW sounds completely ridiculous. It's obvious you're doing something really stupid that's causing these injuries. Eat enough food and sleep enough, don't run fast when you're not warmed up. Simple. Follow this plan and you won't get injured I guarantee.

Correction: I meant to say that my body couldn't handle the intensity.

British Guy wrote:

I'd like to offer my own insight.

I'm a runner with 'no talent'. I'd be willing to wager I'm of similar or less talent than David45. I never broke 10 minutes in the 3k as a teenager. Now at 22, I'm targetting sub-70 in the half, yes I'm running half marathons faster than I ran the 3k a few short years ago. How? Partly because I'm a late bloomer who got older, but mostly by training properly.

Getting injured off 20 MPW sounds completely ridiculous. It's obvious you're doing something really stupid that's causing these injuries. Eat enough food and sleep enough, don't run fast when you're not warmed up. Simple. Follow this plan and you won't get injured I guarantee.

LRC, where sub-70 half guys consider themselves "with "no talent"". Classic.

Also, most injuries across the entire running world happen by runners running 5-20 mpw. Beginners are by far at highest injury risk, their mechanics are the generally the worst and they don't have the strengthening that high mileage would give them.

Yes someone like Mo Farah, with 20 years of experience in running and 100k+ lifetime miles won't get injured on 20 mpw. The average Joe who is just starting to run as hobby or to gain fitness has a high risk of injury.

10/10.

I have tears in my eyes from laughing.

Phil, British Guy said he is ‘targeting sub 70.’ There is a difference.

0k wrote:

You should eat more and see what happens

I already eat a lot

I'll have to disagree with you on this one. 20 MPW is less than 3 miles per day...

Kenaneeser Beckelay wrote:

Phil, British Guy said he is ‘targeting sub 70.’ There is a difference.

Oh yea, forgot his PR is actually just like 1:10:30, 1:11 or 1:12. You are right, seems like he was truly without any talent! xD

david45 wrote:

0k wrote:

You should eat more and see what happens

I already eat a lot

Push it to the limit

Are you a tall runner? I would condider another sport were you can keep running, but not as the only activity. Cross country skiers and inline skaters are both doing as much running as their Main activity. Triathletes run a lot and same goes for kayakers and adventure racers

While I'm sure that your family, or maybe your dog, is extremely proud of you for surmounting your own obstacles, I believe that you have failed to notice that David carries copious amounts of negativity within himself. Additionally, it matters not a whit that David is exposed to any additional negativity on this forum. He has a proven ability to ignore any and all input, be it good or bad.

FinJ wrote:

Are you a tall runner? I would condider another sport were you can keep running, but not as the only activity. Cross country skiers and inline skaters are both doing as much running as their Main activity. Triathletes run a lot and same goes for kayakers and adventure racers

No, I am not a tall runner. I am 6'0''

david45 wrote:

FinJ wrote:

Are you a tall runner? I would condider another sport were you can keep running, but not as the only activity. Cross country skiers and inline skaters are both doing as much running as their Main activity. Triathletes run a lot and same goes for kayakers and adventure racers

No, I am not a tall runner. I am 6'0''

What gets your juices flowing?

elvid32 wrote:

david45 wrote:

So

there is no way I can be a good runner

?

Now you're starting to get it. I hope you're not as slow learning the material in your classes as you are figuring this out or running, because you're going to fail out if that's the case.

I doubt he even goes to UCLA. He claimed he was going to UCSD in all of his previous reddit handles. Probably making stuff and lying like he does all the time. He lies about age, running, criminal record, profession. No surprise if he lies about education too.

david45 wrote:

SeattleSilver wrote:

Quit or don't quit. Talking about it here is worthless.

With the mileage you have reported you shouldn't be injured as much as you say you are. You either aren't physically able to run, you are doing something wrong and can't figure out what it is, or you mistake discomfort for injury. No one here can determine which.

How is someone supposed to know they are physically unable to run? Also, I did not have discomfort. I 100% know it is PF, which is an injury that isn't healing while I train.

How would you know that you are physically unable to run? You say it yourself here frequently. You are low mileage and slow, yet you are frequently too injured to train. One might conclude that you are unable to run.

If you haven't been diagnosed with PF by a medical professional, you can't be sure that your have it In any case, you often post here claiming to be injured with the sort of discomfort that runners just get used to. For many of us, that include bouts of plantar pain.

Disgusted wrote:

Additionally, it matters not a whit that David is exposed to any additional negativity on this forum. He has a proven ability to ignore any and all input, be it good or bad.

Funnily enough, a trait like this can prove to be an asset to david if he finds an activity that he excels at.

SeattleSilver wrote:

david45 wrote:

How is someone supposed to know they are physically unable to run? Also, I did not have discomfort. I 100% know it is PF, which is an injury that isn't healing while I train.

How would you know that you are physically unable to run? You say it yourself here frequently. You are low mileage and slow, yet you are frequently too injured to train. One might conclude that you are unable to run.

If you haven't been diagnosed with PF by a medical professional, you can't be sure that your have it In any case, you often post here claiming to be injured with the sort of discomfort that runners just get used to. For many of us, that include bouts of plantar pain.

But the thing is my pain was lasting for months non-stop

david45 wrote:

SeattleSilver wrote:

How would you know that you are physically unable to run? You say it yourself here frequently. You are low mileage and slow, yet you are frequently too injured to train. One might conclude that you are unable to run.

If you haven't been diagnosed with PF by a medical professional, you can't be sure that your have it In any case, you often post here claiming to be injured with the sort of discomfort that runners just get used to. For many of us, that include bouts of plantar pain.

But the thing is my pain was lasting for months non-stop

That's bad.