Kyle Merber makes official retirement announcement

NERunner53 wrote:

rojo wrote:

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Is this a case of you are misremembering? According to tilastapaja, Merber didn't do much indoors in 2016 according. Just a 7:50 3k and a DNF at Millrose (or was he the rabbit?).

Time wise, his big indoor season was 2017 when he ran 3:52 in the mile but looking at things as a coach the problem for Kyle was that he was always better at time trialing than running in championships 1500s. I mean a week after that 3:52 mile, he was only 6th at USA indoors.

Please don’t view that as a knock on Kyle. It’s kind of amazing he ran as fast as he did. His lack of success in championships might make some sense as he didn’t have an amazing 800 pb (1:47) nor was his endurance fantastic (13:55 5k pb).

So how is he gonna outkick the true studs of USA 1500 meter.?The other ‘poor endurance non Xc guys’ are way faster than him - Andrews and Manzano both have 1:44 800 pbs - and then the guys with similar 800 pbs like Blankenship have better endurance (13:30isih 5k pb) . And then there is someone like Centro who has both.- speed (1:44 800 pb) and endurance (13:00 5000 pb) and you see why he’s winning the Olympics.

-Rojo

PS. TO the guy who suggested we get him on the pod, i think he would make a great podcast guest.

This is what I feel like I had to say after you couldn't wait a day to bash sub-2:10 American men. Merber just made this announcement & you feel the need to litigate his accomplishments in this way. You lack class Rojo. He did so much good for the sport, but you can't just say some nice things about him on the same day he comes out with all this. I hope he doesn't want to go on your podcast. & you're probably well aware that elites avoid this place. Gee -- I wonder why. It surely can't have anything to do with the culture around here -- one that you're 100% complicit in.

There is no need or reason for the founder of a running website to write things like this right after this kind of an announcement. People like Merber because of the Real Maine, because of his social media, because of the mile race he hosts, because of his solid times. Maybe focus on those things and help build the sport how he did instead of creating an army of message board heroes that only want to critique things. That's not how we move forward.

NERunner53 wrote:

This is what I feel like I had to say after you couldn't wait a day to bash sub-2:10 American men. Merber just made this announcement & you feel the need to litigate his accomplishments in this way. You lack class Rojo. He did so much good for the sport, but you can't just say some nice things about him on the same day he comes out with all this. I hope he doesn't want to go on your podcast. & you're probably well aware that elites avoid this place. Gee -- I wonder why. It surely can't have anything to do with the culture around here -- one that you're 100% complicit in.

There is no need or reason for the founder of a running website to write things like this right after this kind of an announcement. People like Merber because of the Real Maine, because of his social media, because of the mile race he hosts, because of his solid times. Maybe focus on those things and help build the sport how he did instead of creating an army of message board heroes that only want to critique things. That's not how we move forward.

rojo wrote:

NERunner53 wrote:

This is what I feel like I had to say after you couldn't wait a day to bash sub-2:10 American men. Merber just made this announcement & you feel the need to litigate his accomplishments in this way. You lack class Rojo. He did so much good for the sport, but you can't just say some nice things about him on the same day he comes out with all this. I hope he doesn't want to go on your podcast. & you're probably well aware that elites avoid this place. Gee -- I wonder why. It surely can't have anything to do with the culture around here -- one that you're 100% complicit in.

There is no need or reason for the founder of a running website to write things like this right after this kind of an announcement. People like Merber because of the Real Maine, because of his social media, because of the mile race he hosts, because of his solid times. Maybe focus on those things and help build the sport how he did instead of creating an army of message board heroes that only want to critique things. That's not how we move forward.

So a guy retires on social media. An Olympic gold medallist and the former elite athlete coordinator for the NYRR both wish him good luck and rave about him..... as a rabbit.

I then comment on their comments and I'm somehow the bad guy? If anything, shouldn't they be the ones beeing ripped? When I saw their comments, I kind of thought, "Wow that's kind of a weird thing to post on social media as social media is normally more of a tribute place."

I was actually complimenting the dude and saying he ran way faster than most guys with his credentials at 800 / xc. The reality is the truly elite big boys of the 1500 normally are faster than him or have better endurance or actually both . I remember one year Wheating was right with my guy at NCAA xc in 2008. . So Wheating was 75th at NCAA xc and he ran 1:44. Merber was 98th at NCAA XC in both 2011 and 2012 and ran 1:47. Remember, Wheating ran 14:55 for 5k in HIGH SCHOOL.

What do you want me to say? Merber was an Olympian? If he'd gone the Alex Pappas route, he could have been one.

The point of the messageboard is it's a place where FANS can debate and talk about things. It's not supposed to be a safe place where athletes post PR statements.

Emily Swan Song wrote:

rojo wrote:

So a guy retires on social media. An Olympic gold medallist and the former elite athlete coordinator for the NYRR both wish him good luck and rave about him..... as a rabbit.

I then comment on their comments and I'm somehow the bad guy? If anything, shouldn't they be the ones beeing ripped? When I saw their comments, I kind of thought, "Wow that's kind of a weird thing to post on social media as social media is normally more of a tribute place."

I was actually complimenting the dude and saying he ran way faster than most guys with his credentials at 800 / xc. The reality is the truly elite big boys of the 1500 normally are faster than him or have better endurance or actually both . I remember one year Wheating was right with my guy at NCAA xc in 2008. . So Wheating was 75th at NCAA xc and he ran 1:44. Merber was 98th at NCAA XC in both 2011 and 2012 and ran 1:47. Remember, Wheating ran 14:55 for 5k in HIGH SCHOOL.

What do you want me to say? Merber was an Olympian? If he'd gone the Alex Pappas route, he could have been one.

The point of the messageboard is it's a place where FANS can debate and talk about things. It's not supposed to be a safe place where athletes post PR statements.

I don't really understand what you're getting at here or in your original post. What I THINK you were trying to say: that Kyle Merber performed exceedingly well at the 1500m given his relatively slower times at 800m and 5000m. Correct?

rojo wrote:

NERunner53 wrote:

This is what I feel like I had to say after you couldn't wait a day to bash sub-2:10 American men. Merber just made this announcement & you feel the need to litigate his accomplishments in this way. You lack class Rojo. He did so much good for the sport, but you can't just say some nice things about him on the same day he comes out with all this. I hope he doesn't want to go on your podcast. & you're probably well aware that elites avoid this place. Gee -- I wonder why. It surely can't have anything to do with the culture around here -- one that you're 100% complicit in.

There is no need or reason for the founder of a running website to write things like this right after this kind of an announcement. People like Merber because of the Real Maine, because of his social media, because of the mile race he hosts, because of his solid times. Maybe focus on those things and help build the sport how he did instead of creating an army of message board heroes that only want to critique things. That's not how we move forward.

So a guy retires on social media. An Olympic gold medallist and the former elite athlete coordinator for the NYRR both wish him good luck and rave about him..... as a rabbit.

I then comment on their comments and I'm somehow the bad guy? If anything, shouldn't they be the ones beeing ripped? When I saw their comments, I kind of thought, "Wow that's kind of a weird thing to post on social media as social media is normally more of a tribute place."

I was actually complimenting the dude and saying he ran way faster than most guys with his credentials at 800 / xc. The reality is the truly elite big boys of the 1500 normally are faster than him or have better endurance or actually both . I remember one year Wheating was right with my guy at NCAA xc in 2008. . So Wheating was 75th at NCAA xc and he ran 1:44. Merber was 98th at NCAA XC in both 2011 and 2012 and ran 1:47. Remember, Wheating ran 14:55 for 5k in HIGH SCHOOL.

What do you want me to say? Merber was an Olympian? If he'd gone the Alex Pappas route, he could have been one.

The point of the messageboard is it's a place where FANS can debate and talk about things. It's not supposed to be a safe place where athletes post PR statements.

Runner10287 wrote:

rojo wrote:

So a guy retires on social media. An Olympic gold medallist and the former elite athlete coordinator for the NYRR both wish him good luck and rave about him..... as a rabbit.

I then comment on their comments and I'm somehow the bad guy? If anything, shouldn't they be the ones beeing ripped? When I saw their comments, I kind of thought, "Wow that's kind of a weird thing to post on social media as social media is normally more of a tribute place."

I was actually complimenting the dude and saying he ran way faster than most guys with his credentials at 800 / xc. The reality is the truly elite big boys of the 1500 normally are faster than him or have better endurance or actually both . I remember one year Wheating was right with my guy at NCAA xc in 2008. . So Wheating was 75th at NCAA xc and he ran 1:44. Merber was 98th at NCAA XC in both 2011 and 2012 and ran 1:47. Remember, Wheating ran 14:55 for 5k in HIGH SCHOOL.

What do you want me to say? Merber was an Olympian? If he'd gone the Alex Pappas route, he could have been one.

The point of the messageboard is it's a place where FANS can debate and talk about things. It's not supposed to be a safe place where athletes post PR statements.

It is funny how liberal cry babies actually take away from discussing a solid career such as Merbers but interjecting their personal feelings and shortcomings into every one else's comments during a conversation.

Runner10287 wrote:

rojo wrote:

So a guy retires on social media. An Olympic gold medallist and the former elite athlete coordinator for the NYRR both wish him good luck and rave about him..... as a rabbit.

I then comment on their comments and I'm somehow the bad guy? If anything, shouldn't they be the ones beeing ripped? When I saw their comments, I kind of thought, "Wow that's kind of a weird thing to post on social media as social media is normally more of a tribute place."

I was actually complimenting the dude and saying he ran way faster than most guys with his credentials at 800 / xc. The reality is the truly elite big boys of the 1500 normally are faster than him or have better endurance or actually both . I remember one year Wheating was right with my guy at NCAA xc in 2008. . So Wheating was 75th at NCAA xc and he ran 1:44. Merber was 98th at NCAA XC in both 2011 and 2012 and ran 1:47. Remember, Wheating ran 14:55 for 5k in HIGH SCHOOL.

What do you want me to say? Merber was an Olympian? If he'd gone the Alex Pappas route, he could have been one.

The point of the messageboard is it's a place where FANS can debate and talk about things. It's not supposed to be a safe place where athletes post PR statements.

It is funny how liberal cry babies actually take away from discussing a solid career such as Merbers but interjecting their personal feelings and shortcomings into every one else's comments during a conversation.