Ohio Governor: 60 percent of nursing home staff elected not to take COVID-19 vaccine

What idiots.

I mean, I'm probably an idiot for hating masks, but I'd take a vaccine in a second. Practically zero risk, a day of discomfort at most. I'd happily take that over years of daily misery in a mask.

mask hater wrote:

What idiots.

I mean, I'm probably an idiot for hating masks, but I'd take a vaccine in a second. Practically zero risk, a day of discomfort at most. I'd happily take that over years of daily misery in a mask.

I am guessing that even after your shot, you are still going to have to wear the mask for a while.

But to some extent this is classic self interest. So what if you get sick and kill off half a dozen residents. You probably will be ok.

It's going to be really funny at the airport when these health care workers, after laboring for a year plus without break, show up for their much needed week of vacation to Florida and TSA says, "Sorry! You do not have a valid COVID passport and we cannot allow you to proceed to the gate.".

People should have the freedom to take the vaccine or not but, I foresee some consequences coming: no flights, no trains, no buses, no concerts, no sporting events, etc. After all, nearly all states require current vaccinations to attend public schools and private entities have more rights than public ones when it comes to refusing service.

Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:

It's going to be really funny at the airport when these health care workers, after laboring for a year plus without break, show up for their much needed week of vacation to Florida and TSA says, "Sorry! You do not have a valid COVID passport and we cannot allow you to proceed to the gate.".

People should have the freedom to take the vaccine or not but, I foresee some consequences coming: no flights, no trains, no buses, no concerts, no sporting events, etc. After all, nearly all states require current vaccinations to attend public schools and private entities have more rights than public ones when it comes to refusing service.

Being infected and developing antibodies naturally won't count ?

Guess Pfizer and Moderna can't make money that way.

DanM wrote:

About 60% of nursing home staff have so far elected not to take the vaccine, DeWine said.

"We aren’t going to make them but we wish they had a higher compliance," he said. "Our message today is the train may not be coming back for a while.”

Not surprising for young people. There are pretty nasty side effects to the vaccine, look at the study results. About 1/6 people under 55 get a fever over 100 after the 2nd injection. It's actually worse the younger you are as its immune system strength that contributes, only 11% over 55 have a 100+ fever. There are other side effects. So for a young healthy person, they may reasonably prefer to take their chances with COVID over the vaccine. Elderly there should be no discussion, get the vaccine.

That being said I can understand a nursing home requiring staff to get the vaccine. You are working with the most vulnerable population and your being immune will greatly impact the number of extremely vulnerable people that are exposed to the virus. Overall not for mandates to get the vaccine but I think in the case of working with vulnerable patients a business can require it. That being said it would be smart to stagger the staff getting the vaccine so that a bunch of the staff aren't knocked on their butt with a fever at the same time.

DanM wrote:

Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:

It's going to be really funny at the airport when these health care workers, after laboring for a year plus without break, show up for their much needed week of vacation to Florida and TSA says, "Sorry! You do not have a valid COVID passport and we cannot allow you to proceed to the gate.".

People should have the freedom to take the vaccine or not but, I foresee some consequences coming: no flights, no trains, no buses, no concerts, no sporting events, etc. After all, nearly all states require current vaccinations to attend public schools and private entities have more rights than public ones when it comes to refusing service.

Being infected and developing antibodies naturally won't count ?

Guess Pfizer and Moderna can't make money that way.

The vaccines are free to the public,

DanM wrote:

About 60% of nursing home staff have so far elected not to take the vaccine, DeWine said.

"We aren’t going to make them but we wish they had a higher compliance," he said. "Our message today is the train may not be coming back for a while.”

Shouldn't vaccine distribution be first come, first serve if half the people in most demographics are going to drag their feet on getting it? Seems unconscionable that we'd drag this BS pandemic out because Grandma actually doesn't want her vaccine.

Nothing to see here. People that understand the recovery rate and the experimental mRNA vaccine risks are making the correct decision.

Forced vaccination? That won't work. Did you see the London protests? Stick that poison vacinne up your ...

JoeBoss wrote:

Guess Pfizer and Moderna can't make money that way.

The vaccines are free to the public,[/quote]

Gov't pays for them. Where do you think the gov't gets their money?

This shows how much mistrust most people have in the propaganda that is being crammed down their throat on a daily basis.

Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:

People should have the freedom to take the vaccine or not but, I foresee some consequences coming: no flights, no trains, no buses, no concerts, no sporting events, etc. After all, nearly all states require current vaccinations to attend public schools and private entities have more rights than public ones when it comes to refusing service.

Well...then; that's medical discrimination. Just because someone refuses a medical procedure (which vaccination is) doesn't give the right for businesses to discriminate against these people.

Btw, on childhood vaccine requirements; 15 states allow a philosophical exemption and 47 states allow a religious exemption. So, parents have a choice to opt out in 47 out of the 50 states.

Agenda Disco 2030 wrote:

Did you see the London protests? Stick that poison vacinne up your ...

That's one thing the British do right, is beat up their government. The French too.

Americans lately beat up the cops and small business owners on behalf of their government.

60% didnt get it but how many of those already got covid and have antibodies? 30-40% of the non takers? Maybe higher?

I am generally opposed to forced vaccination. I think, for example, that children should not be forced to get vaccinated in order to attend school. Vaccination should be strongly encouraged, but not mandated.

However, I make an exception for Covid and long-term care staff. You are basically a killer if you work in a nursing home and won't get vaccinated. It's disgustingly selfish.

Agenda Disco 2030 wrote:

Nothing to see here. People that understand the recovery rate and the experimental mRNA vaccine risks are making the correct decision.

Forced vaccination? That won't work. Did you see the London protests? Stick that poison vacinne up your ...

I live in London, what protest?

Also, wasnt it experimental in trials, then approved, so no longer experimental?

Wouldn't this basically be a fireable offense in the health care industry though? Your entire job mandate is to improve the health of others, and continuing to work with high-risk patients after refusing a vaccine is a direct contradiction to that.

If a customer service rep refuses to provide services to customers, they'll be canned.

On topic wrote:

Wouldn't this basically be a fireable offense in the health care industry though? Your entire job mandate is to improve the health of others, and continuing to work with high-risk patients after refusing a vaccine is a direct contradiction to that.

If a customer service rep refuses to provide services to customers, they'll be canned.

All depends on if they can find someone else to do the job for the same low price.

Those side effects aren’t scary, that would be an indication to your body to recognize and start fighting off the virus. That’s how vaccinations work. They mimic the virus so your body is more adept to fight it off.

I was offered the vaccine and did not hesitate about receiving it.

One poster put something about getting immunity naturally the issue is that if you do get covid...let’s say you get milder symptoms or even test positive with no symptoms it does not mean you’re immune. If you have milder sx there’s a good possibility that you can catch it again. There are different strands/mutations right now of this virus also. Just some things to consider.

For the vaccine the numbers are looking very good in its effectiveness. They aren’t sure how long the immunity will last though but it’s a step in the right direction.

Pretty nasty a little fever

Why would I intentionally get sick if I am young and healthy? There is a reason that it is not approved for people 18 and under. Most vaccines are targeted at children.