COVID update from the front lines

the media is corrupt wrote:

coach wrote:

We need a Bernie Sanders system of health care.

Yeah, taking advice from a Stalin-worshipper who has never held a real job in his entire life ... that will work. The loser even got kicked out of a commune because he refused to do any work.

Makes sense that this is the type of person that today’s brainwashed leftists look up to.

Sure, because what (you think) you know about a person who *espouses* a particular policy--tells you everything you need to know about the policy itself.

Any more arguments ad hominem you want to get off your chest?

lost faith in humanity wrote:

Stop the hysteria please. Plenty of evidence this is not as bad as they made it out to be. It 100% could be like a bad flu season. You want science? Science allows discussion. Anyone, including researchers, with a contrary Covid opinion is shut down. Cancelled. Is that right?

Science does not allow discussion of incontrovertible evidence. You want to discuss whether the cosmos might be an n-dimensional hyberbolic surface? Go for it. You want to discuss whether the earth is flat and held up by a stack of turtles? Go $#$(( yourself.

A bad flu season, as we were reminded in the spring by dearly departed Facts Matter, was 61,000 deaths. We now have FIVE TIMES that many dead, and more coming every day. This is 100% NOT a bad flu season.

hoots wrote:

[quote]RGARC2 wrote:

53% of our admitted patients in the hospital are COVID related. That is an astounding percentage.

Complete horsepoop.

Ah, yes, the telltale f'ing with the quote function.

Thank you for the blast from the past. Facts Matter. Simpler times. Insane that people are still spouting the exact same BS

real info wrote:

lost faith in humanity wrote:

Stop the hysteria please. Plenty of evidence this is not as bad as they made it out to be. It 100% could be like a bad flu season. You want science? Science allows discussion. Anyone, including researchers, with a contrary Covid opinion is shut down. Cancelled. Is that right?

Science does not allow discussion of incontrovertible evidence. You want to discuss whether the cosmos might be an n-dimensional hyberbolic surface? Go for it. You want to discuss whether the earth is flat and held up by a stack of turtles? Go $#$(( yourself.

A bad flu season, as we were reminded in the spring by dearly departed Facts Matter, was 61,000 deaths. We now have FIVE TIMES that many dead, and more coming every day. This is 100% NOT a bad flu season.

real info wrote:

[quote]lost faith in humanity wrote:

A bad flu season, as we were reminded in the spring by dearly departed Facts Matter, was 61,000 deaths. We now have FIVE TIMES that many dead, and more coming every day. This is 100% NOT a bad flu season.

Yet effectively ZERO flu deaths.

Kind of odd

You know the deniers are running on fumes when all they can say to a doctor reporting directly from the hospital is “horse poop.”

This year has been one big IQ test on LRC and all the deniers are wishing they could get extra credit lol

Wigins is an activist for the idea of readmitting morons back into society... he hasn’t convinced me yet but it’s clear he will keep trying. He’s had so many opportunities to just be a halfway decent person but insists on doubling down being a miserable troll. Happy New Year :)

lost faith in humanity wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

It's a troll, sucker.

He's an activist.

Darren Stevens wrote:

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Yet effectively ZERO flu deaths.

Kind of odd

And just like that another poster decides their 2021 IQ test is gonna go similarly!

Hint: R0 is different between the two viruses. Do you understand that? There are a lot of threads from March about this lol

sjrt wrote:

hoots wrote:

[quote]RGARC2 wrote:

53% of our admitted patients in the hospital are COVID related. That is an astounding percentage.

Complete horsepoop.

Ah, yes, the telltale f'ing with the quote function.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/070/005/de6.png

Clearly the claim that "53% of our admitted patients in the hospital are COVID related" is complete hokum.

Why so triggered by someone pointing this out.

Kind of weird how emotional these Covid Believers are; how they cling to obvious lies.

the media is corrupt wrote:

coach wrote:

We need a Bernie Sanders system of health care.

Yeah, taking advice from a Stalin-worshipper who has never held a real job in his entire life ... that will work. The loser even got kicked out of a commune because he refused to do any work.

Makes sense that this is the type of person that today’s brainwashed leftists look up to.

The concept of Government Sponsored Socialized Medicine began before U.S. Senator Sanders was born. It was a great idea before the birth of Senator Sanders, a great idea when Sanders was in grade school, a great idea when Sanders was in college and a great idea before Sanders held political office as a young adult.

Six time zones ahead of U.S. on east coast citizens and workers in Austria pay 50 Euro a month for clinical medical, clinical dental, medical surgery, dental surgery, psychological out-patient care and psychiatric in-patient care. Not covered, eye glasses in Austria. They go to school tuition free in Austria. That is one of the ways costs are kept in line there. You may ask: What is the catch? The tax code in Austria is not as billionaire friendly as is tax code in U.S; AUT does not have the largest military in the world.

How did all THIS occur?

The 1/2 billionaires & billionaires, c.e.o.s of large corporations and Republicans over 100 years decided citizens who worked for large corporations and large organizations would have employer sponsored group health insurance. All others could purchase expensive health insurance policies or go without. Republicans and their rich supporters wanted U.S. citizens to strive for a job at a big organization and be dependent on large corporation or large organization. This was fine for the beautiful people. All others, sh!t out of luck. WHAT A CRAZY SYSTEM! Medicare & Medicaid reduced the number of uninsured. Affordable Care Act cut the uninsured in U.S. in half but we still have the same crazy health system.

1935 Governor Huey Long wanted Government Sponsored Single-Payer Healthcare in U.S. Long, a LA democrat intended to challenge F.D.R. for 1936 Democrat nomination. Long was assassinated, 1935.

Some say F.D.R. was planning on giving U.S. Government Sponsored Single-Payer Healthcare after WW2. Obviously F.D.R. did not see the end of WW2.

Dr. Ernesto Guevara preached the merits of socialism and socialized medicine from the bottom of South America to Mexico and entire Latin America. IMO, if Guevara had not preached the merits of socialized medicine over western hemisphere, U.S. never would have granted medicare & medicaid to U.S. citizens. Guevara was gunned down with aid of C.I.A. in mid-1960s. A summary execution.

Government sponsored single-payer healthcare is bigger than Bernie Sanders. Unless you are a 1/2 billionaire or billionaire, you will benefit for government sponsored single-payer healthcare.

Darren Stevens wrote:

Clearly the claim that "53% of our admitted patients in the hospital are COVID related" is complete hokum.

And yet it's not "clear" at all.

A poster was describing one specific situation ("OUR patients" and "THE hospital"). I think that over the last several months we've all seen (or at least been informed of) multiple examples of how things can be very different from one hospital to another, even within a fairly small geographic area.

I can credit that poster for likely speaking truthfully about his/her particular situation, without then concluding that s/he was speaking about the situation in the country or the world as a whole, or even a county as a whole.

I realize that all-or-none thinking ("If a vaccine isn't 100% effective, it's useless!" "If an immigrant commits a crime, they're all criminals!") can be a comfort, because it doesn't call for any effort to deal with and evaluate that pesky "nuance" stuff. But reality *does* deal with nuance.

We get daily reports from our hospital admin. Plus here is a tool to cross reference anecdotal experiences. But yes we are over 50%.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/09/944379919/new-data-reveal-which-hospitals-are-dangerously-full-is-yours?utm_term=nprnews&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR1bXTtzD2RV0Zt-HiuFvGbiDKpLQxzRjcc42oDOe1WB1zjc-o5ipKBg49w#lookup

You would not be risking anything by disclosing the location of your hospital.

Until you do that there is no way to corroborate what you are saying. Anyone paying attention to the mountain of lies that define the Covid fantasists would have to dispute your story as this same rubbish has been disproved over and over in country after country.

I don't even think you know very much despite your amazing claim to being "on the front lines."

Another teens-weensy problem with your hysteria-laden headline is that anyone can go to the nationwide hospital database (which I have at my fingertips so careful) and see that even if what you are saying is true for your "shop" it merits a big "so what" as that would make your hospital one of the few. It is also the case that numerous hospitals have been shuttered over the last decade, we have an increase in overall population, an increase in aging population and a severe decrease in health indices in the US over the last decade- combined with the fact that EVERY TIME this time of the year hospitals are getting stressed due to what I just laid out. The problem has nothing to do with a seasonal virus so quit portraying it as such if you sincerely want things to change.

And I didn't even talk about the furloughs.

For you to attribute this to the ever elusive "Covid" is grossly irresponsible.

Now some facts instead of your hysteria.

As of 12/29/20:

- Inpatient Beds Occupied (All Patients) Nationwide- 66.45%

- Inpatient Beds Occupied (COVID-19 Patients) Nationwide- 17.29%

- ICU Beds Occupied (All Patients) Nationwide- 61.15%

The panic you people create costs lives. You're doing exactly the opposite s as advertised.

Further details here:

https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/hospital-capacity#download-data

O.P. is posting under a registered handle. Brothers Johnson can and do know if O.P. is an emergency room medical doctor. O.P. is further left than Brothers Johnson. Do you think Brothers Johnson are in on the lie? How many emergency room doctors does a hospital have? Half dozen to maybe a dozen? How many emergency room doctors are runners? He could throw a few medical Latin terms in his posts in the future to let you know he really is an E.R. doc.

local yokel wrote:

Right the "medical profession" . LOL. Were doctors and nurses supposed to be bricklayers as well? Making new hospitals in their spare time?

Also, how many "medical professionals" forced these patients to do things they were explicitly advised not to do?

Society has no body to blame but itself. Public health is not complex. People were told if you do X, Y, or Zyou will likely get Covid-19.

People: "Yeah, yeah, sure".

You're right it's so simple. All that had to happen was for hundreds of millions of people to not leave their house or get within 6 feet of anybody outside their household for 2+ weeks. Not that hard people! I'm glad we have people like you to shed their expert opinion.

[quote]Harambe wrote:

You know the deniers are running on fumes when all they can say to a doctor reporting directly from the hospital is “horse poop.”

Just a polite term for the following ridiculous statement:

"53% of our admitted patients in the hospital are COVID related."