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rekrunner wrote:

Shopping hour wrote:

There's been all sorts of EPO studies linked. Jon denies them too.

Yes there have been. I do not deny nor ignore them.

You are being very evasive and non-specific about which "contradictory evidence" you believe I ignore.

Are you going to be like Armstronglivs and completely fail to substantiate your claim for 20 pages and then blame me for your failure?

Do I need to go to the library to educate myself on which studies have contradictory evidence I ignore?

All of it? You haven't shown any evidence of reading yet.

Yes, you probably do.

Shopping hour wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

Yes there have been. I do not deny nor ignore them.

You are being very evasive and non-specific about which "contradictory evidence" you believe I ignore.

Are you going to be like Armstronglivs and completely fail to substantiate your claim for 20 pages and then blame me for your failure?

Do I need to go to the library to educate myself on which studies have contradictory evidence I ignore?

All of it? You haven't shown any evidence of reading yet.

Yes, you probably do.

All of what? What was I supposed to read? What should I look for in the library?

rekrunner wrote:

Shopping hour wrote:

All of it? You haven't shown any evidence of reading yet.

Yes, you probably do.

All of what? What was I supposed to read? What should I look for in the library?

The links. All of them. Books.

Shopping hour wrote:

The links. All of them. Books.

Then you will tell me which "evidence to the contrary" I have ignored?

It seems like you should be able to explain yourself regardless.

I looked in this thread for links to EPO studies from you, finding none.

Just a UC Berkeley article about villagers with large spleens, a link to Santana, and a link to "logicallyfallacious" about repetition.

rekrunner wrote:

Shopping hour wrote:

The links. All of them. Books.

Then you will tell me which "evidence to the contrary" I have ignored?

It seems like you should be able to explain yourself regardless.

All of it. It may seem like I should be able to, but you and Jon have incredible trouble grasping things. I have no background in educating those types of people.

You can lead a horse to water.....

rekrunner wrote:

I looked in this thread for links to EPO studies from you, finding none.

Just a UC Berkeley article about villagers with large spleens, a link to Santana, and a link to "logicallyfallacious" about repetition.

Think of this forum as training for how to use the library then.

Shopping hour wrote:

All of it. It may seem like I should be able to, but you and Jon have incredible trouble grasping things. I have no background in educating those types of people.

You can lead a horse to water.....

You are not even leading me to water.

Since you have given no contradictory example, "all of it" means I have ignored "all of nothing".

It seems like you should be able to, independently of my ability to grasp things.

Like Armstronglivs, falsely questioning my "ability to grasp things" has no bearing on your ability to show any contradiction with an EPO study, that was linked, that I have ignored.

Like with Armstronglivs, I do not ask you educate me, but to provide a concrete example, in order to substantiate an otherwise baseless and unsubstantial statement.

Shopping hour wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

I looked in this thread for links to EPO studies from you, finding none.

Just a UC Berkeley article about villagers with large spleens, a link to Santana, and a link to "logicallyfallacious" about repetition.

Think of this forum as training for how to use the library then.

This is training I don't need, and it is not training that you (or this forum) is giving.

You said that "there's been all sorts of EPO studies linked."

But apparently not in this thread. Do you expect me to search all 592397 threads of this forum for the links you have in mind? Shall I search outside this forum too, for the linked studies?

In the past decade, I have read many linked EPO studies in other threads, and have accepted these studies in their entirety, for what they are worth, neither ignoring, nor contradicting them.

rekrunner wrote:

Shopping hour wrote:

There's been all sorts of EPO studies linked. Jon denies them too.

Yes there have been. I do not deny nor ignore them.

You seem confused.

Shopping hour wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

Yes there have been. I do not deny nor ignore them.

You seem confused.

You seem to be trying your best to confuse me, but I am not at all confused. It is true that there have been studies linked, something I acknowledged. Yet I found none in this thread, by you. Your passive way of expressing it does not indicate which thread or who posted these studies you suggest contain contradictory evidence. However, it does place the maximum burden on me to search for and find the studies you have in mind -- something that it is completely unnecessary for you to show the contradiction you have in mind.

As I said:

In the past decade, I have read many linked EPO studies in other threads, and have accepted these studies in their entirety, for what they are worth, neither ignoring, nor contradicting them.

True - you get nothing.

rekrunner wrote:

Shopping hour wrote:

All of it? You haven't shown any evidence of reading yet.

Yes, you probably do.

All of what? What was I supposed to read? What should I look for in the library?

Go to the section on mental disorders. Know thyself.

rekrunner wrote:

Shopping hour wrote:

You seem confused.

You seem to be trying your best to confuse me, but I am not at all confused. It is true that there have been studies linked, something I acknowledged. Yet I found none in this thread, by you. Your passive way of expressing it does not indicate which thread or who posted these studies you suggest contain contradictory evidence. However, it does place the maximum burden on me to search for and find the studies you have in mind -- something that it is completely unnecessary for you to show the contradiction you have in mind.

As I said:

In the past decade, I have read many linked EPO studies in other threads, and have accepted these studies in their entirety, for what they are worth, neither ignoring, nor contradicting them.

You're probably still undecided as to whether you will pee standing or sitting. That's the kind of person you are, undecided and very sure about it.

Armstronglivs wrote:

True - you get nothing.

Because you've got nothing.

rekrunner wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

True - you get nothing.

Because you've got nothing.

Because you understand nothing.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Because you understand nothing.

I say without contradiction that I understand everything you said, and say -- but you say nothing.

rekrunner wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Because you understand nothing.

I say without contradiction that I understand everything you said, and say -- but you say nothing.

That's a contradiction, Gary.

Shopping hour wrote:

(also nothing)

When you solve the equations you find the solution: "everything he said and says" = "nothing".