Surgeon General: Vaccine Will Not Prevent Infection, only Reduce Severe Illness. Wear Masks and Continue Social Distancing

trashcan wrote:

Most of the grocery store workers I come across are under 30 and appear healthy.

I know the young and healthy have way lower fatality rates. But is it also true that young and healthy people are more likely to be asymptomatic?

Bound4Glory wrote:

trashcan wrote:

Most of the grocery store workers I come across are under 30 and appear healthy.

I know the young and healthy have way lower fatality rates. But is it also true that young and healthy people are more likely to be asymptomatic?

We may have Cross posted so that you missed my subsequent post about 80% of infected people age 10 to 19 being asymptomatic

Yes, I saw that after I posted. Thank you.

Lockdowns are doing far more damage than the virus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH-fNyJnr_Y

The Unkle wrote:

Lockdowns are doing far more damage than the virus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH-fNyJnr_Y

More youtube videos and blog posts. Never anything remotely scientific.

The last refuge of a failed conspiracy theory

This is pathetic. Posts like this are seriously not taken down? Clinton was right, there are a bunch of deplorables out there.

rhooonex wrote:

This is pathetic. Posts like this are seriously not taken down? Clinton was right, there are a bunch of deplorables out there.

It's true, but we spanked them in the election and they're still crying about it.

Love to see it.

Harambe wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

Lockdowns are doing far more damage than the virus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH-fNyJnr_Y

More youtube videos and blog posts. Never anything remotely scientific.

The last refuge of a failed conspiracy theory

Wow.

This buffoon does not acknowledge the damage the lockdowns are doing.

The World Health Organization knows.

Definitely not bullying or mocking - merely encouraging people (in no uncertain terms) to give their head a shake and stay informed by being educated an d having a good critical lens for interpreting media. Yes, I think it is a good idea to source information and be critical of new vaccines but not if it is adding fuel to the fire of misinformation and creating dissent. Trust your elected officials, health authorities, doctors and scientists who are trying to get this thing under control. Nobody is winning...well maybe the vaccine makers.

Ounce of prevention wrote:

Definitely not bullying or mocking - merely encouraging people (in no uncertain terms) to give their head a shake and stay informed by being educated an d having a good critical lens for interpreting media. Yes, I think it is a good idea to source information and be critical of new vaccines but not if it is adding fuel to the fire of misinformation and creating dissent. Trust your elected officials, health authorities, doctors and scientists who are trying to get this thing under control. Nobody is winning...well maybe the vaccine makers.

Which elected officials (I don't' know why you would trust any?) do we trust; left or right? Which health authorities, red state or blue state? CDC or the WHO? Which doctors, the ones who promote the media narrative or the ones against the lockdowns, masks, testing of asymptomatic people. Which scientists do we believe, the ones pushing the dogma or the ones looking at all possible approaches and treatments who do not belittle outside ideas? Don't be deluded into thinking their is a consensus, there is only uncertainty and political and financial motive trying top capitalize on that uncertainty at the expense of the people. Mocking alternate ideas and theories, no matter how absurd they may seem to you or CNN, is not effective at anything other than giving the absurd more weight and denying good ideas the light of day; it is really a naive and childness approach that is destroying much of what we hold dear in society. It should be confronted and discourse maintained on all angles.

People who make these statements are following the media. They assume that the mainstream media has screened all of the information for them.

I trust the officials that I vote for and any elected official whom I deem to have compassion and integrity. I live in a country (Canada) with a quasi one tier healthcare system that has way less commercial and political influence compared to the US. I trust public health doctors of which their is a large consensus that support a national vaccination program with the mRNA vaccine. I am somewhat concerned that the approval process was hurried but the trials clearly show it is the best option at our disposal currently. Delaying this will costs many more lives. Good on you for welcoming conversation and diversity of opinions and I agree that more is research is needed.

I trust public and independent - not corporate commercial shiza like Fox or CNN, Coach Extraordinaire

We need to take action now. Are you afraid of the mRNA vax? Why? Do you think it will turn us into dark seeking hostile zombies like in I Am Legend?

I am not afraid of the mRNA vax, although I am younger so I can be patient and either see how things go with it or wait for more standard vaccine. This though is not about the vaccine, this is about saving sick and dying patients; as many as possible. We are talking about treatment not prevention? I am all for rolling out the vaccines; right now I believe they should all go to the elderly ASAP; that is my opinion. If I took it now that is one more elderly person put at risk for little gain for me or any other younger healthy person.

Ounce of prevention wrote:

I trust the officials that I vote for and any elected official whom I deem to have compassion and integrity. I live in a country (Canada) with a quasi one tier healthcare system that has way less commercial and political influence compared to the US. I trust public health doctors of which their is a large consensus that support a national vaccination program with the mRNA vaccine. I am somewhat concerned that the approval process was hurried but the trials clearly show it is the best option at our disposal currently. Delaying this will costs many more lives. Good on you for welcoming conversation and diversity of opinions and I agree that more is research is needed.

In the USA there are very few trustworthy politicians at the national level; maybe local level.

Harambe: You say you are open to looking at Ivermectin studies. Well here is a very good source.

https://c19ivermectin.com/

A quote from the IVMmeta.com site which was written in November, prior to more positive studies emerging, "Ivermectin is effective for COVID-19. 100% of studies report positive effects. The probability that an ineffective treatment generated results as positive as the 26 studies to date is estimated to be 1 in 67 million (p = 0.000000015).

Also shows studies indicating the efficacy of Vitamin D as both prophylaxis and treatment.

https://c19vitamind.com/

And debunks your dismissal of HCQ. 100% of studies for HCQ taken early show efficacy. Taken later is a mixed bag.

https://c19study.com/

[quote]Lead Foil Hat V wrote:

I am not afraid of the mRNA vax,

I sure as Hell am.

This did not go through anything like a standard protocol to measure its safety.

They rushed it out.

Stay away from it