With all of the tech companies moving to Texas. Texas may go blue in 2024. For sure by 2028

Lol. You gave up on 2600 after a week or two.

How long til you give up on the “election fraud.”

I’m serious. What would it take to convince you? I’m curious. You probably had your mind made up on election night like most Trumpers. Evidence was never necessary.

rojo wrote:

Op, have you not realized the irony of your post? You are trying to use the fact that many big tech luminaries and companies are fleeing the far-left policies of California - whether it's Oracle or Elon Musk - to prove that the country is turning to the left.

The people running a company are often not the same (politically, ideologically, demographically) as the majority of people who work for the company. I can give you an example. I'm not sure you know this, but there are things called "unions" in a lot of industries, where the majority of people who work for a company collectively bargain with the people who run the company. Sometimes these situations become acrimonious (that means they don't like each other) and the people who the company relies on to do most of the every day work decide to stop working all at once. That's called a "strike." So, you see, it's possible for the people who might decide to move a company to be in the minority, ideologically, within the company.

Texas has no personal income tax, and presumably much kinder corporate taxes. Companies are probably moving there for those reasons -- it will provide an immediate boost to their bottom lines. However, by moving there, many workers who work in that industry will also move there. Most of those workers are very different from the people who run the company -- tech workers are notoriously liberal. I think that's what the OP means when they says that Texas will turn blue. They mean that the workers coming into the state, in much larger numbers than the people who run the company, will be primarily liberal, and vote for democrats. It seems a bit dubious to me, though. There aren't *that* many people who work for these companies...but who knows! Texas has been trending more blue recently as it is. Plus, creating more liberal communities in Texas will likely make it more appealing for liberals in other industries to move to. See, e.g. Austin. I think that's probably what the OP means, in the end.

It's ok, I know that you got an education that was lacking in teaching you about "the real world," as is often the case at most Ivy League schools. I got you, though, I went to a small liberal arts college in rural ohio, so I **definitely** know what's up ;).

I will make a (foreigner) prediction for you. Kamala Harris cannot win the electoral college. The Georgia results were an outlier, a blue state in a sea of red, that is unsustainable. If Reps learn to play identity politics the entire board changes.

a foreign observer wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

*Whispers*......Biden did 3% better than Clinton....

TX '20 +6 Trump

TX '16 +9 Trump

TX '12 +16 Romney

As the USA becomes a majority minority country the GOP's margin of error gets smaller and smaller. The only Hispanic group the GOP performs well with is those of Cuban descent in FL because Socialism is a scary word down there being too closely compared to Castro.

AZ was the first domino to fall. By 2028 TX will be blue.

Alan

I will make a (foreigner) prediction for you. Kamala Harris cannot win the electoral college. The Georgia results were an outlier, a blue state in a sea of red, that is unsustainable. If Reps learn to play identity politics the entire board changes.

Wow thanks foreigner, did you bother to research anything about our elections before making that hot take? Winning Georgia doesn’t need to be sustainable. Georgia has 16 electoral votes. Biden won by more than 70 electoral votes. He could have lost Georgia 4 more times if that were somehow possible, and still won. The only person capable of losing Georgia multiple times over in one election is Mr. Trump.

Here's another foreigner opinion. How can Dems seriously take any pleasure from the election results? You were up against a guy vilified so completely and universally by the media in a way never before seen in a 'democracy'. On top of that, he had the misfortune to run into a once in a century virus from China, that the aforementioned media somehow managed to blame him for, which turned the economy from being in it's best state for decades to its worse in 300 years. And if that wasn't enough, the Left and the same media turns a single act of police brutality into a global quasi religious Woke anti-Trump / anti-white movement.

And you still had to steal the election in order to squeeze Sleepy Joe home. And blacks and Hispanics turned away from you in droves and voted for the 'racist' orange man. And what you get is somebody in the White House with dementia and a very public sexual fetish of sniffing the hair of young girls.

And you celebrate en masse in the streets (because Covid is a Biden supporter too)??

More people would side with the Republicans if they didn’t turn people off with the social conservative stuff.

Runner10287 wrote:

More people would side with the Republicans if they didn’t turn people off with the social conservative stuff.

This right here.

Tell the evangelicals to pray harder for social change because the GOP no longer cuts it's own throat for God and notify dying industries that they need to change because corporate welfare for them is ending. Re-focus on dinner table issues: employment, fair taxation, less intrusive government, and true freedom for ALL. Rid the party of grey hairs that cannot wrap their heads around a changing economy and promote younger minds that understand the challenges ahead. Get on board with green tech as a means of creating wealth, jobs, and independence. Re-orient education towards skills needed for the future economy.

Harambe wrote:

I think the issue is that state-to-state realignment like CA-TX can dramatically effect the presidential election due to the electoral college.

The country doesn’t have to turn left at all but if you just transport a few million voters from CA to TX then the Democrats would have a massive majority in the EC.

Obviously going by popular vote would make these migrations less important.

This is true, however, it assumes that the folks moving to Texas are going to remain democrats long term. The baby boomers were liberal in their youth and became conservative as they aged, accrued wealth, and had children. The millenial generation may do the same.

Personally, I'm sad to see people flee old east coast cities. There's so much history and culture here. I think pandemic shutdowns, BLM-related property destruction (and the subsequent decreased policing) are going to have ironic, unintended effects on minority communities here. Wealthy white millenials (ie the tax base) are already fleeing and will continue to do so as they have children and seek lower taxes/good schools/safe places for their kids to grow up, while impoverished minorities will be left behind with their cities in a terrible state.

I really hope this trend reverses a bit when the pandemic is over, but I'm worried the pandemic was just a nail in the coffin to a trend that was already beginning.

Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:

Runner10287 wrote:

More people would side with the Republicans if they didn’t turn people off with the social conservative stuff.

This right here.

Tell the evangelicals to pray harder for social change because the GOP no longer cuts it's own throat for God and notify dying industries that they need to change because corporate welfare for them is ending. Re-focus on dinner table issues: employment, fair taxation, less intrusive government, and true freedom for ALL. Rid the party of grey hairs that cannot wrap their heads around a changing economy and promote younger minds that understand the challenges ahead. Get on board with green tech as a means of creating wealth, jobs, and independence. Re-orient education towards skills needed for the future economy.

QFE

Nothing far left about California. Most of the policies there are center-right in most of the civilized world. Not wanting to incinerate in fire or choke on car exhaust for example. Medicare for all is a mainstream position.

Corporate Democrats control the state, not progressives, and the millions of Republicans there properly recognize being close minded and hateful is bad for business.

Harambe wrote:

I see. So no evidence. Unprovable. But you’re sure it happened.

You don’t even care about the election but you are choosing to believe in a massive, unprecedented conspiracy that you have no evidence for.

Very interesting!! Thanks for clearing this up.

Do you believe Russia collusion?

Maddening that these fools continue to vote for the idiot Democrats destroying all these once nice places. They flee the consequences and then vote for more of the same.