Breaking 15 - Realistic or delusional?

Realistic = no.

Possible = yes.

This thread is on the edge of demonstrating poor judgment. You could have left your reference to your coach out of the discussion. You may be talented, but holding yourself back from more success by overthinking stuff - and he sees it.

Take him out to breakfast and thank him for working with you. My .02

Ehhh. I feel dirty. wrote:

Realistic = no.

Possible = yes.

This thread is on the edge of demonstrating poor judgment. You could have left your reference to your coach out of the discussion. You may be talented, but holding yourself back from more success by overthinking stuff - and he sees it.

Take him out to breakfast and thank him for working with you. My .02

I feel a little bit of JS jibberish is coming up soon

Why would you TT a 10K? A 5K , 3 mile would be better. Looks like you have responded to the extra mileage well. The trick will be sustaining it without injury and building even more over time, IMO.

Of course it is possible! Look what you have done already! I never could get out of the 50s without injury, but I did run my best times with mileage in the 50s.

Rule of thumb is if you are not a speedster, you have to get it done with as much mileage as you can safely handle. You are still young enough to see just how well you can do, and you have time, so don't go overboard- think longer term than next Summer. Have short term and long term speed and mileage goals. Good luck!

Seems plausible to me with another year of healthy, relatively high volume training. You'll never know unless you try.

British Guy wrote:

Little bit of a story. I'm 22 years old and have been a runner for years but only started running serious mileage this year. I'd always done 30-35 MPW and had a 5k PB in the low 17's. After a summer of averaging 65-70 MPW I time trialled a 10k on the track in high 32's. I think it's realistic to say I'd be in the 15:40 - 15:50 range for 5k. I recently got a new coach as I want to improve further and he's adamant that I can be sub-15 (and sub-4 1500) NEXT SUMMER! I'm aware that there's an enormous gap from 15:40 to 15:00. I like to think that sub-15 is an ambitious goal for my entire running career, is it really realistic that I could do it in a few months time?

What`s your all out speed at 400m?

Yeah, it looks like your ability at 5 k right now is around 15:40-15:50.

It`s realistic and almost guaranteed that you could do a sub 15 and sub 4 at 1500m ( depending on your 400m speed)if you were coached by me ... with your new coach I don`t have a clue, lol.

If it won`t go the way your new coach thinks you are of course welcome to the Magic Wizard coach. Best wishes! :)

I think you can do it. You haven't trained enough but still got to 15:40. With better training, sub-15 is possible. I was like you, at the age of 18 (same mileage and PR in 5k) and by age 21 I ran 14:18 by training very hard. 60-80 mpw with lots of quality. If you really want to get below 15, it would help to have other fast people to train with. Train with sub-15 guys and you'll eventually run sub-15.

i never lie wrote:

Ehhh. I feel dirty. wrote:

Realistic = no.

Possible = yes.

This thread is on the edge of demonstrating poor judgment. You could have left your reference to your coach out of the discussion. You may be talented, but holding yourself back from more success by overthinking stuff - and he sees it.

Take him out to breakfast and thank him for working with you. My .02

I feel a little bit of JS jibberish is coming up soon

You spell awful!

Mad Maxi wrote:

i never lie wrote:

I feel a little bit of JS jibberish is coming up soon

You spell awful!

The Wizard JS wrote:

What`s your all out speed at 400m?

Yeah, it looks like your ability at 5 k right now is around 15:40-15:50.

It`s realistic and almost guaranteed that you could do a sub 15 and sub 4 at 1500m ( depending on your 400m speed)if you were coached by me ... with your new coach I don`t have a clue, lol.

If it won`t go the way your new coach thinks you are of course welcome to the Magic Wizard coach. Best wishes! :)

Awfull spelling , predition however very, very excellent

Mad Maxi wrote:

i never lie wrote:

I feel a little bit of JS jibberish is coming up soon

You spell awful!

Realistic or delusional.... you tell me :)

Well.......that was just to get a race as a break in the training, and we didn`t know he should have needed mountaineering equipment, LoL Now after he is still in his best shape ever and will hopefully race again in beginning of next year in a marathon. Did his usual stuff in this weeks training and 20 x 400m at 62-64 sec and 12 x 1600m LTs at 4:40-4:44 min. This guy gonna run

a sub 2:10 marathon when he get`s the right race. I`m sure! :)

The Wizard JS wrote:

Well.......that was just to get a race as a break in the training, and we didn`t know he should have needed mountaineering equipment, LoL Now after he is still in his best shape ever and will hopefully race again in beginning of next year in a marathon. Did his usual stuff in this weeks training and 20 x 400m at 62-64 sec and 12 x 1600m LTs at 4:40-4:44 min. This guy gonna run

a sub 2:10 marathon when he get`s the right race. I`m sure! :)

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