Where They Have It Too Easy wrote:
effort runs wrote:
She ran 16:07 under Centro, 15:04 now.
Webb fell off the planet after 2007.
I don’t think either of these are up for debate.
Nuanced understanding of context isn't your strong suit and that certainly isn't up for debate.
There is no nuanced understanding of context. Sometimes Occam’s razor applies.
moms4keira wrote:
She seemed to be on track pace-wise for something in the ~15:30-40 range if you believe the GPS splits from the cart in the video from Facebook, which is still very impressive on a hilly course. Paquette and Praught-Leer have PR's somewhere in the 15:10 range in peak track shape so they are very respectable athletes to best at this distance by such a wide margin.
Her progression is not that unbelievable if you consider her last few years. She's put in some serious marathon training but clearly has some nice track speed still. If she was running 14:30 out of nowhere, I'd be crying foul too, but 15:0x while impressive and exciting is not an extraordinary feat. I recall Magda running around 15:15 for 5k when she hopped on the track after years just focusing on the marathon, which was something like a minute faster than her best.
She also has no real good reason just to start taking PEDs for running enhancement. Good working career, marriage, kids, situation in life, etc. She won't earn much money from this, even if she sneaks on to the Olympic team- not at her age. From interviews I've read, she kind of just happened to fall back into running 3-4 years ago to loose pregnancy weight. So its not even like she had this secret ambition to try to light it up like she is now. It just kind of happened. And good for her.
There is a lot to admire about her and I've enjoyed following her success the last few months. Should be fun to see where it takes her.
The guy in the video was guessing as he said. Her GPS shows the correct splits and it is 3.1x on her strava.
Everyone writes about D'Amato as if she is focused on the 5k at the Olympic Trials.
She'll enter the 5k . . . but her best track event will be the 10k which is contested on day 1.
I too subscribe to the simple 5k x 2 + 1min formula for projecting 10k times . . . which would put Keira right around 31 -flat . . . well under the Oly qualifying standard.
And, a serious contender for the 10k team along with Hall, Sisson and maybe Infeld.
As good as Keira's been in the 5k, very doubtful she would be competitive with the 5k specialists Schweizer, Rowbury, Fraser . . . and possibly even Simpson, Purrier and/or Cranny should they opt for the 5k vs the 1500 or simply don't make the 1500 team.
Note: Houlihan has consistently stated she will double at the Trials but will only run the 1500 at the Olympics since the Tokyo 1500 - 5k double is not doable. However, if something goes wrong with Shelby in the 1500, the women's 5k turns into even more of a world-class monster event.
and, add Huddle to the 10k contenders list above.
Based upon what we've seen of her this year, I would put D'Amato at the head of the list of the other non-Oly qualifying marathoners who will be running the 10k track trials (i.e., Hall, Taylor, etc).
Should also add that Vanessa Fraser/BTC Babe is planning on a 10k-5k double as Jerry/coach thinks she has a great future in that event.
effort runs wrote:
Where They Have It Too Easy wrote:
Nuanced understanding of context isn't your strong suit and that certainly isn't up for debate.
There is no nuanced understanding of context. Sometimes Occam’s razor applies.
You mean Occam's Razcko
outsider69 wrote:
effort runs wrote:
There is no nuanced understanding of context. Sometimes Occam’s razor applies.
You mean Occam's Razcko
Okay, you win the day.
pavement88 wrote:
I want to be impressed by her great year. Aisha Praught-Leer is a very good professional runner.
I want to be impressed but I'm just not fully believing it.
^This. Smells off to me
jezzaica wrote:
1st ever LetsRun post here... She had foot surgery, followed by babies, then slowly lost the weight with incredibly smart training and eating. She has zero ego and a great life outside the running that has allowed her to keep it fun and be consistent over several years. I don't know Keira really well, but well enough that I'd bet my life that she is not doping and never will.
Yeah, probably not doping, but still far away from the shape required to make the team. She'll need to get into 14:40 shape to have a shot, that is what the 3rd placer is at right now (Roburry) with several others in the high 14:40s to 14:50s.
MatthewXCountry wrote:
Yeah, probably not doping, but still far away from the shape required to make the team. She'll need to get into 14:40 shape to have a shot, that is what the 3rd placer is at right now (Roburry) with several others in the high 14:40s to 14:50s.
She’s clearly capable of 14:50 on the track, which is why people are freaking out about her.
The question is why kind of a last lap can she run.
800 dude nailed it... championship racing on the track comes down to the final 400m. She is not going to be able to run away from everyone and she will probably have big time jitters racing on the track - not to mention running rounds. She is an absolute phenom. Her training doesn't make sense, but she's making it interesting. Also, no AlphaFly's on the track. I almost feel like she is developing too late and her best chance was the Marathon Trials. If US would have sent a team to the World Half Champs, I think she's at least Top 10 if not Top 5 with a 65 to 66-min performance. It's going to come down to who is healthy and rolling in 6-8 months.
800 dude wrote:
MatthewXCountry wrote:
Yeah, probably not doping, but still far away from the shape required to make the team. She'll need to get into 14:40 shape to have a shot, that is what the 3rd placer is at right now (Roburry) with several others in the high 14:40s to 14:50s.
She’s clearly capable of 14:50 on the track, which is why people are freaking out about her.
The question is why kind of a last lap can she run.
She seems to be a very good amateur roadrunner, but not much of a threat to even make the Olympic Trials much less the team. She hasn't run a track race of any distance in 12 years. She would have to run 15:20 on the track to qualify for the Trials and 15:10 to qualify for the Olympics.
She ran a time trial in June. But yes, no official race.
effort runs wrote:
She ran a time trial in June. But yes, no official race.
https://youtu.be/u5AWzeu9Dfg
I stand corrected. She has a shot at the team. But a perfectly even pacer job by a male and she still needs to take some time off that PB to have a shot. As I said, someone with her finishing closing speed needs to be in 14:40.0 shape to make the team. She isn't getting in on a kick off of a slow pace.
Standard Setter wrote:
800 dude nailed it... championship racing on the track comes down to the final 400m. She is not going to be able to run away from everyone and she will probably have big time jitters racing on the track - not to mention running rounds. She is an absolute phenom. Her training doesn't make sense, but she's making it interesting. Also, no AlphaFly's on the track. I almost feel like she is developing too late and her best chance was the Marathon Trials. If US would have sent a team to the World Half Champs, I think she's at least Top 10 if not Top 5 with a 65 to 66-min performance.
It's going to come down to who is healthy and rolling in 6-8 months.
800 dude wrote:
She’s clearly capable of 14:50 on the track, which is why people are freaking out about her.
The question is why kind of a last lap can she run.
This is true to some extent. But let's just remember that no woman has ever medaled in the 5 km in the world championships without obtaining a PB of 14:35 or faster! It takes a ton of endurance to run a lap in the low-60s off of 15 - 15:20 pace. These races are often sit and kick but the 400m speed point is really over-rated.
Her chances to make the team in the 10,000 are real.
correction, are stronger.
MatthewXCountry wrote:
effort runs wrote:
She ran a time trial in June. But yes, no official race.
https://youtu.be/u5AWzeu9DfgI stand corrected. She has a shot at the team. But a perfectly even pacer job by a male and she still needs to take some time off that PB to have a shot. As I said, someone with her finishing closing speed needs to be in 14:40.0 shape to make the team. She isn't getting in on a kick off of a slow pace.
Keira closed 66-67 in her 15:04, the same as Courtney did (under much more hype conditions with BTC) in her 14:50, Elise was 65. Keira is competitive for the 5k, especially with another year of progress, and a contender for the 10k.
You're correct. The course was 3.11 miles.
Correct, it was a full 3.11M
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