Say goodbye to women's sports, Biden vows on passing equality act within first 100 days

In athletics, the two categories should be:

1. Has a Y chromosome

2. Does not have a Y chromosome

Keep it extremely simple.

People can use whatever label they want for themselves. But if they have a Y chromosome, they're in one group. If they don't have a Y chromosome, they're in the other group.

tatar wrote:

A trans women is a women.

It doesn't matter what you think they are, they'll look and act like a woman. You'd be comfortable forcing that person to use the men's alongside your son?

I don't care what bathroom they use. I don't care what clothes they wear or what pronoun they use.

I do care when a biological man jumps into a race for biological women and beats them all, then claims the victory as some absurd monument to equality, when in fact it is very much the opposite.

tatar wrote:

A trans women is a women.

It doesn't matter what you think they are, they'll look and act like a woman. You'd be comfortable forcing that person to use the men's alongside your son?

Umm, to be honest neither scenario makes me comfortable. That's why Trannies get their own bathrooms and their own athletic divisions. Who wouldn't pay to watch the best Trannies in the world compete against each other? Problem solved

Unfortunately, it will be up to the courts and the US Education Department to decide whether or not transgender athletes will be able to compete against cisgender athletes and if the protections outlined in the bill regarding access to youth services would extend to transgender females competing in female athletics. Right now, the ruling by the US Education Department's Office of Civil Rights has said it violates cisfemale athlete's civil rights to have to compete against transgender female athletes.

If it were to go to the US supreme court (which it should given the threat of loss of federal funds by the state), then it would likely be struck down by the current conservative judiciary (or anyone that understands the science). If the left gets their way and stacks the court after the election and replaces the US Department of Education's leadership, there would be a very real threat of the earlier judgement being overturned. So, the OP's point is not without merit.

local lib wrote:

Sex is biological, gender is a social construct.

Glad I could help.

No, gender is not a social construct. That is as absurd as saying race is a social construct. Your gender and sex are the same and cannot be changed. This whole idea that gender is a social construct is just liberals trying to ignore science to fit their agenda. Science is hard isn’t it?

Glad I could help.

Old and Slow wrote:

local lib wrote:

Sex is biological, gender is a social construct.

Glad I could help.

No, gender is not a social construct. That is as absurd as saying race is a social construct. Your gender and sex are the same and cannot be changed. This whole idea that gender is a social construct is just liberals trying to ignore science to fit their agenda. Science is hard isn’t it?

Glad I could help.

liberal science applied to say the climate

its not "global warming" or "climate change", weather is just a social construct, and the Earth is just identifying as Venus, stop being a climatephobe already!!! just wait till Jupiter identifies as the sun! you cant stop it or even say its cant try, thats discrimination!

Old and Slow wrote:

local lib wrote:

Sex is biological, gender is a social construct.

Glad I could help.

No, gender is not a social construct. That is as absurd as saying race is a social construct. Your gender and sex are the same and cannot be changed. This whole idea that gender is a social construct is just liberals trying to ignore science to fit their agenda. Science is hard isn’t it?

Glad I could help.

Gender and sex are not the same thing buddy. But keep taking pride in being wrong.

Gender and sex are not the same thing buddy. But keep taking pride in being wrong.

Gender is a real thing in the same way that Santa Clause is a real thing. A lot of us have collectively willed the concept into existence, but it remains fully imaginary.

bannned i got wrote:

Old and Slow wrote:

No, gender is not a social construct. That is as absurd as saying race is a social construct. Your gender and sex are the same and cannot be changed. This whole idea that gender is a social construct is just liberals trying to ignore science to fit their agenda. Science is hard isn’t it?

Glad I could help.

liberal science applied to say the climate

its not "global warming" or "climate change", weather is just a social construct, and the Earth is just identifying as Venus, stop being a climatephobe already!!! just wait till Jupiter identifies as the sun! you cant stop it or even say its cant try, thats discrimination!

why is it liberals science is always contradictory to reality and you dont agree with it they get super triggered?

you dont agree with vaccines....they are freaking out!

you dont think climate change is being pushed by humans....they freak out

you dont agree with woke men getting the podium over women...they freak out

vaccines if they are pure good idea...but putting a bunch of chemicals and toxins in them i dont agree with....case in point, got a metal sliver in my eye years back and i had to get a tetanus shot. the nurse tried to inject me with a cocktail tetanus shot and i refused, asked her what all the other chemicals where and she didnt know, got the head doc and he didnt know. i refused to take it and just give me the pure tetanus shot...the got pissed and then said it was way more expensive, i said i dont care.

are humans polluting the world? yes....but are we the cause of the earth warming? no

read some books on geology and you will see the earth has gone up and down in temps and climates over and over for BILLIONS of years. Antarctica once had a TROPICAL climate, and the sahara was a lush marshland. there used to be glaciers on hawaii....to be so arrogant that man is that powerful is asinine. we wont even be a grease stain in the geologic record.

woke men pretending to be women....tell me when according to SCIENCE this helps a species?

Has this been voted on in Congress ?

Fear the future wrote:

Gender and sex are not the same thing buddy. But keep taking pride in being wrong.

Gender is a real thing in the same way that Santa Clause is a real thing. A lot of us have collectively willed the concept into existence, but it remains fully imaginary.

Hence “social construct”.

Biological males should not be competing in women's sports. Period. Everyone knows that and it is frankly a form of misogynistic bullying. But no one wants to be maumaued into submission, which is what social media enables. No athlete can say it least they be branded a bigot or transphobic, which shows you how easily language can be manipulated and debased for self-serving political purposes. But it would be a travesty.

Old and Slow wrote:

tatar wrote:

A trans women is a women.

It doesn't matter what you think they are, they'll look and act like a woman. You'd be comfortable forcing that person to use the men's alongside your son?

No, a trans “woman” is a man. It doesn’t a matter what you surgically remove or add, or what hormones you take, you cannot change DNA and chromosomes.

I thought Liberals believed in science? Science is very clear that you can’t change your gender. To say otherwise is just plain ignorant.

I agree. The dems will now start playing word games trying to defend the indefensible. Funny how they like to use "science " when its convenient but ignore it when it doesn't fit their narrative. This is a bad bill. Time for the ladies to step up like Martina.

astro wrote:

Biological males should not be competing in women's sports. Period. Everyone knows that and it is frankly a form of misogynistic bullying. But no one wants to be maumaued into submission, which is what social media enables. No athlete can say it least they be branded a bigot or transphobic, which shows you how easily language can be manipulated and debased for self-serving political purposes. But it would be a travesty.

Would be a travesty? It already is.

X10000

Fear the future wrote:

tatar wrote:

A trans women is a women.

It doesn't matter what you think they are, they'll look and act like a woman. You'd be comfortable forcing that person to use the men's alongside your son?

I don't care what bathroom they use. I don't care what clothes they wear or what pronoun they use.

I do care when a biological man jumps into a race for biological women and beats them all, then claims the victory as some absurd monument to equality, when in fact it is very much the opposite.

I agree with this.

Funny, this is where I tilt right with my beliefs. Don't agree with how the left sees these issues. Transgendered individuals should have the same rights as everybody else. However, there is a reason why we separate sports based on gender. Transgendered athletes should be able to participate in sports, but should not be allowed an unfair advantage. Biological males should not be allowed to participate in female sports. Unfair advantage.

local lib wrote:

Fear the future wrote:

Gender is a real thing in the same way that Santa Clause is a real thing. A lot of us have collectively willed the concept into existence, but it remains fully imaginary.

Hence “social construct”.

Mmm. One might call the belief almost "religious" in nature...however, most religions aren't allowed to force their scripture onto the general population.

I’m not forcing you to be transgender.

local lib wrote:

I’m not forcing you to be transgender.

This whole thread is about Biden using legislation to ensure that biological males have the right to enter a girls race and kick everyone's asses, and we're supposed to find it brave and heroic.