Say goodbye to women's sports, Biden vows on passing equality act within first 100 days

I have three blue-chip daughters and am not concerned one iota, you need to read the text... also 24 Rep. voted for it in 2019 -

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/5/text

tatar wrote:

You don't protect their rights by trying to write down which characteristics women need to be have to be considered women.

Write down this:

XX not XY

I know that is a toughie for ya

Shows that Biden is as misogynistic as Kamala accused him of being by not protecting women's sports. Transgenders have no laws limiting their play in male athletics but now they get the special privilege of being the crowned gorillas of women sports. And of course, the crowned gorillas will apply the trite platitude of being a victim with a gold medal around her neck.

Biden is evil cloaked in senile fragility wrote:

Shows that Biden is as misogynistic as Kamala accused him of being by not protecting women's sports. Transgenders have no laws limiting their play in male athletics but now they get the special privilege of being the crowned gorillas of women sports. And of course, the crowned gorillas will apply the trite platitude of being a victim with a gold medal around her neck.

I think you are putting words into the act that aren't there.

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

Biden is evil cloaked in senile fragility wrote:

Shows that Biden is as misogynistic as Kamala accused him of being by not protecting women's sports. Transgenders have no laws limiting their play in male athletics but now they get the special privilege of being the crowned gorillas of women sports. And of course, the crowned gorillas will apply the trite platitude of being a victim with a gold medal around her neck.

I think you are putting words into the act that aren't there.

Alan

That is exactly what the act will do. If you don't let transgenders compete then they will claim discrimination. There is not getting around that. The equality act will destroy women's sports.

A trans women is a women.

It doesn't matter what you think they are, they'll look and act like a woman. You'd be comfortable forcing that person to use the men's alongside your son?

Standard Setter wrote:

I have three blue-chip daughters and am not concerned one iota, you need to read the text... also 24 Rep. voted for it in 2019 -

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/5/text

I don't know why you aren't concerned. People like Martina Navritalova and Sanya Richards Ross are concerned. Far from conservatives, they realize that the bill as originally written is a disaster for women's sports and wrote a column in The Washington Post expressing their concerns. Does anyone know if it's been modified?

PS. Please keep this discussion about the merits of the Equality ACT. Do not turn this thread into a discussion of Trump Vs Biden.

tatar wrote:

A trans women is a women.

It doesn't matter what you think they are, they'll look and act like a woman. You'd be comfortable forcing that person to use the men's alongside your son?

No, a trans “woman” is a man. It doesn’t a matter what you surgically remove or add, or what hormones you take, you cannot change DNA and chromosomes.

I thought Liberals believed in science? Science is very clear that you can’t change your gender. To say otherwise is just plain ignorant.

Sex is biological, gender is a social construct.

Glad I could help.

This will be interesting.

At what point does a transgender person's rights trump women's rights?

Transgender women are a minority, so if you're woke you should be on their side, but.. what about GirlPower!

It really sucks for actual women, but for guys willing to play act as a woman you could get paid to beat women in the MMA and contact sports. You could get a fat scholarship if you're a guy that can't hack it on the Men's side.

Does Title IX have any bearing on this?

This intersectional train wreck will be fun to watch, just sad for the victims of it.

Segregate sports by objective sex, not nebulous gender.

There, problem solved.

Fear the future wrote:

Segregate sports by objective sex, not nebulous gender.

There, problem solved.

Fine by me.

YMMV wrote:

tatar wrote:

You don't protect their rights by trying to write down which characteristics women need to be have to be considered women.

Write down this:

XX not XY

I know that is a toughie for ya

But they are the party of science?

Old and Slow wrote:

tatar wrote:

A trans women is a women.

It doesn't matter what you think they are, they'll look and act like a woman. You'd be comfortable forcing that person to use the men's alongside your son?

No, a trans “woman” is a man. It doesn’t a matter what you surgically remove or add, or what hormones you take, you cannot change DNA and chromosomes.

I thought Liberals believed in science? Science is very clear that you can’t change your gender. To say otherwise is just plain ignorant.

Are you saying women are defined by their biology? Because that can easily be used to say women are limited by biology.

Standard Setter wrote:

I have three blue-chip daughters and am not concerned one iota, you need to read the text... also 24 Rep. voted for it in 2019 -

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/5/text

Says an anonymous poster...

Playing devils advocate, do you understand the downstream consequences of this? Maybe you, parent of three blue chip daughters, aren't concerned because your cake is baked, but do you have your head so far up the arse of the politics of this that you don't think this will hurt other parents of three blue chippers in the future, or those poor idiots that only have one blue chipper, or maybe just middle of the road achievers?

XdresserXroad wrote:

This will be interesting.

At what point does a transgender person's rights trump women's rights?

Transgender women are a minority, so if you're woke you should be on their side, but.. what about GirlPower!

It really sucks for actual women, but for guys willing to play act as a woman you could get paid to beat women in the MMA and contact sports. You could get a fat scholarship if you're a guy that can't hack it on the Men's side.

Does Title IX have any bearing on this?

This intersectional train wreck will be fun to watch, just sad for the victims of it..

Easy. Feminists attack the idea that sex should be a determining factor in how we experience the world.

There's no conflict between feminism and trans rights despite what Navratilova or JK Rowling think. They're not feminists because they believe differences between men and women are due to biology and not patriarchy.

Man that reality when some 6'5 280 lbs dude smashes some woman's face because he "experiences" the world as a female will be a really bad look. But hey, if that's what these folks want, who are we to stop them?

Standard Setter wrote:

I have three blue-chip daughters and am not concerned one iota, you need to read the text... also 24 Rep. voted for it in 2019 -

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/5/text

If those three cisfemale blue chippers lose their state championships to transfemale athletes with 10 times the testosterone, more muscle mass, less injury risk and different skeletal adaptations, you might feel different. I'm pretty sure the parents of the cisfemales in CT whose cisfemale daughters lost one or more of the 15 state championships won by Yearwood and Miller in CT would disagree with you. It's basically a form of doping.

EZ10Miler wrote:

Man that reality when some 6'5 280 lbs dude smashes some woman's face because he "experiences" the world as a female will be a really bad look. But hey, if that's what these folks want, who are we to stop them?

Rates of violence against trans women are just as high, if not higher, than against ciswomen.

They bear the brunt of sex-based violence because they don't conform to sex-based behavior.