COVID cases jumped in September. Now COVID deaths are climbing in October. Who could have predicted that???

A nation gripped in fear wrote:

Fear absolutely works - it's the strategy used by these tyrannical heads of states to control the people.

Because cases go up (because of the increased testing), they use phony computer projections (garbage in & garbage out) to extrapolate the anticipated hospitalizations which are used to scare people (psy ops).

This gives the dictators the power to lock down their citizens like common criminals.

France is in full LOCKDOWN again!!! ?

Look at the fear & panic the dictator has created:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-54742795

Don't think for one minute that Team Apocalypse lead by Dr. Doom Fauci isn't getting any ideas.

Europe has always had a tyrannical bent when compared to the US, the current lockdowns across the Atlantic demonstrate this.

Ironically the German , Italian & Spanish people are now the ones who are fighting against government overreach more so than most of Western Europe.

[quote]2600 bro wrote:

90%+ of ALL deaths have multiple causes of death. Physicians are allowed to determine the primary cause of death - that's how COVID deaths are reported.

The 220k deaths figure is for those dying "with" covid. It is not for those dying primarily from Covid...look into it. If you care about the facts and not just protecting you opinion.

In addition to the fact that the median age of those dying "with" covid is over 80 years and that nearly half of them were in nursing homes (with a median life expectancy of 5 months!), 94% of the people who died "with" Covid has one or more of the following.

Influenza and pneumonia

Chronic lower respiratory diseases

Adult respiratory distress syndrome

Respiratory failure

Respiratory arrest

Other diseases of the respiratory system J

Circulatory diseases - - - - - - - - -

Hypertensive diseases

Ischemic heart disease

Cardiac arrest

Cardiac arrhythmia

Heart failure I50

Cerebrovascular diseases

Other diseases of the circulatory system

Sepsis

Malignant neoplasms

Diabetes

Obesity

Alzheimer disease

Vascular and unspecified dementia

Renal failure

Intentional and unintentional injury, poisoning and other adverse events

Pretty serious comorbidities.

94%!

Nah bro. It's only listed as a COVID death if it was the primary cause of significant contributing cause.

We went over this in like June when you start this BS.

Furthermore 80 year olds have on average 8-9 years of life remaining.

So you're just entirely making things up to troll AND you can't use the quote function! I am not very impressed.

(Note: I am avoiding the excess death argument because you've shown you'll just ignore it - the cognitive dissonance must be brutal)

2600 bro wrote:

Nah bro. It's only listed as a COVID death if it was the primary cause of significant contributing cause.

We went over this in like June when you start this BS.

Furthermore 80 year olds have on average 8-9 years of life remaining.

So you're just entirely making things up to troll AND you can't use the quote function! I am not very impressed.

(Note: I am avoiding the excess death argument because you've shown you'll just ignore it - the cognitive dissonance must be brutal)

Adding a few things

1) Many of the 'comorbidities' like ARDS, resp. failure, cardiac arrest, etc, are caused by COVID itself.

2) Doctors are instructed only to list causes of death if they are directly involved in the death

3) There are mistakes, sure, but you'd have to believe doctors all around the USA are being wildly incompetent and listing COVID on the death cert a majority of times for there to be a big overcount. And then you'd have to explain excess deaths.

COVID deniers have NO answer for #3 -- we've asked this many times.

I am thinking this is a massive problem worldwide. High CT PCR is distorting all the numbers.

My friend is a nurse in Florida. She told me it is for sure happening. A patient tested negative 3 times but unfortunately died. Sure enough, Covid was the cause on the death certificate.

Allen53 wrote:

https://twitter.com/jhaskinscabrera/status/1322321691821920256

I am thinking this is a massive problem worldwide. High CT PCR is distorting all the numbers.

My friend is a nurse in Florida. She told me it is for sure happening. A patient tested negative 3 times but unfortunately died. Sure enough, Covid was the cause on the death certificate.

Did you read the article?

Only 1/3rd were "interesting" and they don't even tell you why. They lump together both ones that had COVID on part II and those with some other co-morbidity that they assume was going kill the patient very soon (no evidence). Classic case of data manipulation.

The CDC says that 95% of death certs with COVID have it as the underlying cause.

This is a non-story

[quote]2600 bro wrote:

"Nah bro. It's only listed as a COVID death if it was the primary cause of significant contributing cause.

We went over this in like June when you start this BS".

Simply not so. The 220k # is people "dying with Covid". CDC makes this clear

"Furthermore 80 year olds have on average 8-9 years of life remaining".

80 plus year olds with comorbidities like malignant neoplasms, pneumonia, diabetes, cardiac arrest have 8-9 years left?

80 plus years olds on nursing homes have 8-9 years left?

Not in this world.

"So you're just entirely making things up to troll AND you can't use the quote function! I am not very impressed."

You are projecting son

Harambe wrote:

[quote]2600 bro wrote:

Nah bro. It's only listed as a COVID death if it was the primary cause of significant contributing cause.

We went over this in like June when you start this BS.

Furthermore 80 year olds have on average 8-9 years of life remaining.

So you're just entirely making things up to troll AND you can't use the quote function! I am not very impressed.

(Note: I am avoiding the excess death argument because you've shown you'll just ignore it - the cognitive dissonance must be brutal)

Adding a few things

1) Many of the 'comorbidities' like ARDS, resp. failure, cardiac arrest, etc, are caused by COVID itself.

So comorbidities that existed in the person before Covid ever appeared are now caused by Covid? What an amazing virus.

Johnny Football's wrote:

The minority of posters here who actually run would like to avoid permanent lung and/or cardiovascular damage.

Meh. Long term aerobic exercise causes permanent lung and/or cardiovascular damage. COVID is the last thing I’m worried about regarding my health.

Other guy wrote:

"So you're just entirely making things up to troll AND you can't use the quote function! I am not very impressed."

No kidding - it's embarrassing that he/she can't use the "quote" function properly. Here I am an academically-challenged (only a Bachelors degree) old stiff (60) who only has a smartphone to post from and I can figure out quote functions and all that other fancy stuff.

I think this "2600" & "Harambe" poster (one of the same?) are twentysomethings basement bloggers who's objective is to troll posters who have a different analysis of the pandemic other than the narrative given by the MSM. They sure as heck don't want to engage in any meaningful debate and constantly demean & antagonize posters they don't agree with.

A nation gripped in fear wrote:

Other guy wrote:

"So you're just entirely making things up to troll AND you can't use the quote function! I am not very impressed."

No kidding - it's embarrassing that he/she can't use the "quote" function properly. Here I am an academically-challenged (only a Bachelors degree) old stiff (60) who only has a smartphone to post from and I can figure out quote functions and all that other fancy stuff.

I think this "2600" & "Harambe" poster (one of the same?) are twentysomethings basement bloggers who's objective is to troll posters who have a different analysis of the pandemic other than the narrative given by the MSM. They sure as heck don't want to engage in any meaningful debate and constantly demean & antagonize posters they don't agree with.

You are correct, they are fear mongering trolls...actually it is one fear mongering troll whom has created an army of pen names to establish the illusion that people agree with him/her. I have never read anything resembling sound logic from this singular individual named/ Precious Roy/Harambe/Bro 2600/......many others.

Lead Foil Hat XXIV wrote:

You are correct, they are fear mongering trolls...actually it is one fear mongering troll whom has created an army of pen names to establish the illusion that people agree with him/her. I have never read anything resembling sound logic from this singular individual named/ Precious Roy/Harambe/Bro 2600/......many others.

Ok boomers: notice how you can trim the quota so we don’t have 9x nested replies that clutter this beautiful space.

Anyway.

Lmao boys, the last three posts y’all have written have been discussing lifestyle/mindset/motivation.

Yet it’s *I* who won’t engage in debate. Everyone post I send has data in it - yet it’s always the same response - trolling, psychopathic, etc.

I love you trolls, your tactics never change.

Let’s get back the death certificate question. Harambe (who I wish I was, but am not) has a good analysis of your “bombshell.” Only 30% had “interesting” death certificates and only a fraction of that had COVID as not the direct death description. Far cry from your wishful 95% fake!

Unless you can send me a list of a large representative sample of death certificates that demonstrate overcounting of COVID deaths with unrelated comorbidities, I am going to trust the diverse medical establishment over LRC mad-posters :D.

No, I am pretty sure you have never actually backed up any of your reasoning with actual data that supports your point. Yes, sometimes you post a link to some data, but most of the time it is just a charade to make it seem like the data backs up what you are saying. Many times the data indicate the opposite, but you hope that people see you posted a link to data and just assume you must be right rather than check the linked data to see if what you are saying makes sense. Nothing you have ever said makes any sense....you are just a ridiculous fear-mongering troll hellbent on perpetuating the paranoia for as long as possible. I think this will be my last response to you (in your many forms directly); it is just not worth the time. No matter what, you we be on here demanding and hoping that many many people will die and demanding the sacrifice of life and livelihood from the poorest citizens to remediate your own narcissistic delusion. The country and the world are going to steadily ignore the "wolf crying" from your crowd until you are just stuck in your basement all to yourself with nobody to listen. The safety, the health, and the livelihoods of billions of people require the rejection of your exaggerated narrative.

My recommendation to all posters on Letsrun, ignore the malicious and false informational post by Precious Roy, Harambe, Bro 2600....ignore them completely. Do not respond to their disgusting troll tatics, you are just wasting your time. Share ideas, data, interpretations, but do not respond to this fool any longer.

I agree. Do not take medical advice from anonymous Internet forums. For reliable information, please check the CDC website. It's current guidance on prevention recommends the following steps:

- Wash your hands often

- Avoid close contact

- Cover your mouth and nose with a mask when around others

- Cover coughs and sneezes

- Clean and disinfect

- Monitor Your Health Daily

Swedish daily Covid deaths soar to 1 on 10/27 and 1 more in 10/28.

https://www.google.com/search?q=daily+deaths+in+sweden+due+to+covid+19&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS919US919&oq=daily&aqs=chrome.3.69i60j69i57j69i59l3j69i60l3.6036j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8