#3 400m Runner of All Time Naser Escapes Ban Over Technicality

GGGG wrote:

rule reader wrote:

How was she saved by the tester.

Her reputation is ruined by his/ her incompetence as she was in.

And was it a male tester ; I can’t work that out?

Why did the tester keep looking for her elsewhere as he had no mission issued for this. Or are wada just incompetent.

I have read the actual decision.

The tester went way beyond his required duties to try and avoid a missed test. As entertaining as the wrong door story may sound, it's all irrelevant. She should have been in breach from the point that the tester turned up looking for an address that doesn't exist.

Many areas don't permit the phone-call, which I think should be the case, but given that she did have that option to avoid a missed test too, yet hadn't updated the number this is absolutely shocking on her part. Best case scenario, she's shown a complete disrespect for the testing process that undermines the credibility of the sport. Some might argue that it's a very convenient way of avoiding testing.

ajatipic wrote:

Salwa Eid Naser probably dirty but far from being the dirtiest athlete on the field.

Her physique and morphology was, by far, the most credible of all the competitors who lined up at last year 400m final.

She is according to various sources, either 1.68m/54kg or 1.67m/50kg which is believable when looking at the picture :

https://bit.ly/35jmnIl

Females tend to be higher responders to the 'androgenic' part of the AAS, yet :

She lacks the "cobra" traps muscles generally seen on androgenized sportswomen.

She does not have the ridiculously lean abs so often seen on female dopers. Remember, body fat on females is a secondary sex characteristic (strong visible muscle bellies that you see on fitness influencers, crossfiters, Sifans, etc .... is not the norm amongst physically active women)

Her arms && shoulders are not overly developped.

I am now reading that Shaunae Miller-Uibo does not understand why SEN has not been banned and want 'answers' from Coe, WADA, etc,....

What I don't understand, is why mrs Miller-Uibo has never been as much suspected as SEN?

Firstly, her physique is much less credible, secondly comparing her progression with SEN's one, it looks like SEN has always been faster than her (on 400m), but most importantly, her current coach, a former inmate, jailed for embezzlement, used to train the likes of :

Tyson Gay

Steve Mullings

Veronica Campbell-Brown

All caught at one point of their career (I am not saying that he was coaching them when they got caught, but that is odd), yet I am led to believe that, her, who is on the same level is somehow a model of probity ?

What I learned from this story is that , testers actually tried to test her, that they regularly travel to Bahrain which means that they are somehow wary of her. If she was really 'valuable', they would have never thrown her name under the bus. The AIU always make their procedures public, but some ADO make them public only when all the legal procedure is done & they can sanction the athletes (which means than when atletes can clear their names throught legal means, it may not be revealed).

Her name is tainted forever, she will be rightly jeered will her competition will be cheered , sponsors will use this to renegotiate their contract with her (this is what they do) meet organizers will give lower appearance fees, etc... She is not really getting away unscathed from this...

John_James_413 wrote:

ajatipic wrote:

Salwa Eid Naser probably dirty but far from being the dirtiest athlete on the field.

Her physique and morphology was, by far, the most credible of all the competitors who lined up at last year 400m final.

She is according to various sources, either 1.68m/54kg or 1.67m/50kg which is believable when looking at the picture :

https://bit.ly/35jmnIl

Females tend to be higher responders to the 'androgenic' part of the AAS, yet :

She lacks the "cobra" traps muscles generally seen on androgenized sportswomen.

She does not have the ridiculously lean abs so often seen on female dopers. Remember, body fat on females is a secondary sex characteristic (strong visible muscle bellies that you see on fitness influencers, crossfiters, Sifans, etc .... is not the norm amongst physically active women)

Her arms && shoulders are not overly developped.

I am now reading that Shaunae Miller-Uibo does not understand why SEN has not been banned and want 'answers' from Coe, WADA, etc,....

What I don't understand, is why mrs Miller-Uibo has never been as much suspected as SEN?

Firstly, her physique is much less credible, secondly comparing her progression with SEN's one, it looks like SEN has always been faster than her (on 400m), but most importantly, her current coach, a former inmate, jailed for embezzlement, used to train the likes of :

Tyson Gay

Steve Mullings

Veronica Campbell-Brown

All caught at one point of their career (I am not saying that he was coaching them when they got caught, but that is odd), yet I am led to believe that, her, who is on the same level is somehow a model of probity ?

What I learned from this story is that , testers actually tried to test her, that they regularly travel to Bahrain which means that they are somehow wary of her. If she was really 'valuable', they would have never thrown her name under the bus. The AIU always make their procedures public, but some ADO make them public only when all the legal procedure is done & they can sanction the athletes (which means than when atletes can clear their names throught legal means, it may not be revealed).

Her name is tainted forever, she will be rightly jeered will her competition will be cheered , sponsors will use this to renegotiate their contract with her (this is what they do) meet organizers will give lower appearance fees, etc... She is not really getting away unscathed from this...

I'm just not seeing any visible symptoms of use on her right now. She's literally this fast. She's probably myostatin deficient or highly likely to be myostatin deficient just like thousands of other current or former sprinters, NFL athletes, Harry Aikines, Anthony Joshua, etc.

It's really not surprising that she's able to run this fast. It's pretty normal for myostatin deficient athletes.

At this point it's really not that fair to disrespect her right now. She hasn't been caught using anything.

GGGG wrote:

John_James_413 wrote:

I'm just not seeing any visible symptoms of use on her right now. She's literally this fast. She's probably myostatin deficient or highly likely to be myostatin deficient just like thousands of other current or former sprinters, NFL athletes, Harry Aikines, Anthony Joshua, etc.

It's really not surprising that she's able to run this fast. It's pretty normal for myostatin deficient athletes.

At this point it's really not that fair to disrespect her right now. She hasn't been caught using anything.

Whether she is on anything or not is not the question. The question is whether she should be banned for missing tests. I do not believe that giving a non-existent address should be a permissible reason to miss a test, otherwise everyone would just do that. I have no idea if she's doping or not - although at a very high level I personally don't think her career trajectory is particularly exceptional. Her disregard for doping control however is deeply worrying.

ajatipic wrote:

Salwa Eid Naser probably dirty but far from being the dirtiest athlete on the field.

Her physique and morphology was, by far, the most credible of all the competitors who lined up at last year 400m final.

She is according to various sources, either 1.68m/54kg or 1.67m/50kg which is believable when looking at the picture :

https://bit.ly/35jmnIl

Females tend to be higher responders to the 'androgenic' part of the AAS, yet :

She lacks the "cobra" traps muscles generally seen on androgenized sportswomen.

She does not have the ridiculously lean abs so often seen on female dopers. Remember, body fat on females is a secondary sex characteristic (strong visible muscle bellies that you see on fitness influencers, crossfiters, Sifans, etc .... is not the norm amongst physically active women)

Her arms && shoulders are not overly developped.

I am now reading that Shaunae Miller-Uibo does not understand why SEN has not been banned and want 'answers' from Coe, WADA, etc,....

What I don't understand, is why mrs Miller-Uibo has never been as much suspected as SEN?

Firstly, her physique is much less credible, secondly comparing her progression with SEN's one, it looks like SEN has always been faster than her (on 400m), but most importantly, her current coach, a former inmate, jailed for embezzlement, used to train the likes of :

Tyson Gay

Steve Mullings

Veronica Campbell-Brown

All caught at one point of their career (I am not saying that he was coaching them when they got caught, but that is odd), yet I am led to believe that, her, who is on the same level is somehow a model of probity ?

What I learned from this story is that , testers actually tried to test her, that they regularly travel to Bahrain which means that they are somehow wary of her. If she was really 'valuable', they would have never thrown her name under the bus. The AIU always make their procedures public, but some ADO make them public only when all the legal procedure is done & they can sanction the athletes (which means than when atletes can clear their names throught legal means, it may not be revealed).

Her name is tainted forever, she will be rightly jeered will her competition will be cheered , sponsors will use this to renegotiate their contract with her (this is what they do) meet organizers will give lower appearance fees, etc... She is not really getting away unscathed from this...

ajatipic wrote:

Salwa Eid Naser probably dirty but far from being the dirtiest athlete on the field.

Her physique and morphology was, by far, the most credible of all the competitors who lined up at last year 400m final.

She is according to various sources, either 1.68m/54kg or 1.67m/50kg which is believable when looking at the picture :

https://bit.ly/35jmnIl

Females tend to be higher responders to the 'androgenic' part of the AAS, yet :

She lacks the "cobra" traps muscles generally seen on androgenized sportswomen.

She does not have the ridiculously lean abs so often seen on female dopers. Remember, body fat on females is a secondary sex characteristic (strong visible muscle bellies that you see on fitness influencers, crossfiters, Sifans, etc .... is not the norm amongst physically active women)

Her arms && shoulders are not overly developped.

I am now reading that Shaunae Miller-Uibo does not understand why SEN has not been banned and want 'answers' from Coe, WADA, etc,....

What I don't understand, is why mrs Miller-Uibo has never been as much suspected as SEN?

Firstly, her physique is much less credible, secondly comparing her progression with SEN's one, it looks like SEN has always been faster than her (on 400m), but most importantly, her current coach, a former inmate, jailed for embezzlement, used to train the likes of :

Tyson Gay

Steve Mullings

Veronica Campbell-Brown

All caught at one point of their career (I am not saying that he was coaching them when they got caught, but that is odd), yet I am led to believe that, her, who is on the same level is somehow a model of probity ?

What I learned from this story is that , testers actually tried to test her, that they regularly travel to Bahrain which means that they are somehow wary of her. If she was really 'valuable', they would have never thrown her name under the bus. The AIU always make their procedures public, but some ADO make them public only when all the legal procedure is done & they can sanction the athletes (which means than when atletes can clear their names throught legal means, it may not be revealed).

Her name is tainted forever, she will be rightly jeered will her competition will be cheered , sponsors will use this to renegotiate their contract with her (this is what they do) meet organizers will give lower appearance fees, etc... She is not really getting away unscathed from this...