Spain/France COVID Cases are Up, Deaths are Wayyyyyy Down

dunes runner wrote:

The WHO has been caught many times fabricating studies and statistics, so anything posted from them is totally lacking any credibility.

rekrunner wrote:

WHO was talking about the WHO?

YOU, that's who.

rekrunner wrote:

I've gone way beyond any duty by referring them to the CDC website.

And P-Roy, and anyone else who's been quoting their fallacious statistics.

dunes runner wrote:

dunes runner wrote:

The WHO has been caught many times fabricating studies and statistics, so anything posted from them is totally lacking any credibility.

rekrunner wrote:

WHO was talking about the WHO?

YOU, that's who.

rekrunner wrote:

I've gone way beyond any duty by referring them to the CDC website.

For your info, the WHO is not the CDC:

WHO: "The World Health Organization is a specialized agency of the United Nations responsible for international public health."

CDC: "The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is a national public health institute in the United States."

Your allegations about the WHO have nothing to do with me or the CDC.

David Wowie wrote:

Monkeys typing wrote:

Here again is the U.S weekly all causes death count through 9/5. Note the big spike after the normal 2020 flu season (Northeast), the sustained high level into summer, and the secondary spike starting late summer (Arizona, Florida, Texas, California mostly).

https://monkeystyping.neocities.org/WeeklyAllCauseDeathThrough0905.PNG

Nice cartoon

......and nice way to crop the figure to avoid showing the general trend upwards year-to-year and the fact that spikes above expected are a common occurrence during March-May.

Here, the full graph. You are probably the only person on the internet denying the 200k excess deaths :

https://theconversation.com/up-to-204-691-extra-deaths-in-the-us-so-far-in-this-pandemic-year-143139

CorrectorII wrote:

Here, the full graph. You are probably the only person on the internet denying the 200k excess deaths :

https://theconversation.com/up-to-204-691-extra-deaths-in-the-us-so-far-in-this-pandemic-year-143139

Nobody is denying excess deaths; they are not all covid and why is nobody even considering the mass of deaths that would occur at the same time when the hospitals are essentially the scariest place on earth and nobody wants go get treated. Then there are the suicides, the at home heart attacks deemed covid, the at home strokes assume covid, the every preventable death when the hospitals are open and normal covid deaths. You are being very intellectually dishonest or just naïve to think they are all covid deaths when elderly people have been terrified for months to even go near a hospital, the same places they normally go to be saved from a whole range of problems. You are basically lying by claiming the excess is all covid when in reality your fear mongering has killed tens of thousands all on its own. Stop lying and stoip killing people.

You are the one posting about excess deaths, scrutinizing everything about the plots and mixing ideas.

Two independent facts:

There are in excess of 200k deaths this year

There are in excess of 200k deaths attribute to covid (by doctors)

It's up to you to explain how your narrative "the death by isolation and suicide are double the deaths from covid" can fit those numbers (it can't)

Here's another view of the data with the weekly all-cause-death numbers for the last few years overlaid to make visual comparison across years more clear. The roll off at the end of the 2020 data curve is due to the lag in report of the most recent weeks.

https://monkeystyping.neocities.org/weeklyDeaths.png

Data is "Observed Number" column plotted against "Week Ending Date" converted to week of year from CSV format data at CDC site:

https://data.cdc.gov/api/views/xkkf-xrst/rows.csv?accessType=DOWNLOAD&bom=true&format=true%20target=