Who is the best runner you’ve ever defeated?

Rono, Virgin and Rodgers, all on the downside of their respective careers.

Kevin young and bernard lagat.

Beat them in high school:

-Dustin Fox [Ohio State CB, drafted but never really played NFL]; beat him over 100m.

-Anthony Gonzalez [Ohio State WR, short NFL career]; beat him over 100m.

-Donte Whitner [Ohio State Safety, long NFL career]; beat him over 100m and 200m.

Beat them in college:

-Pierre Garcon [former NFL WR]; beat him over 100m and 200m.

-Greg Nixon [400m US National Champion]; beat him over 100m before he became a 400 guy.

Kareem Hunt (currently an RB in NFL) went to my high school and was unable to break my 100m school record (he got pretty close though). Not quite me beating him, but I was afraid he'd get it and didn't and I felt like Don Shulas Dolphins when the Patriots lost to the Giants in the Superbowl after his season ended and he didn't get it.

Mr. Pedantic wrote:

Beat them in high school:

-Dustin Fox [Ohio State CB, drafted but never really played NFL]; beat him over 100m.

-Anthony Gonzalez [Ohio State WR, short NFL career]; beat him over 100m.

-Donte Whitner [Ohio State Safety, long NFL career]; beat him over 100m and 200m.

Beat them in college:

-Pierre Garcon [former NFL WR]; beat him over 100m and 200m.

-Greg Nixon [400m US National Champion]; beat him over 100m before he became a 400 guy.

Kareem Hunt (currently an RB in NFL) went to my high school and was unable to break my 100m school record (he got pretty close though). Not quite me beating him, but I was afraid he'd get it and didn't and I felt like Don Shulas Dolphins when the Patriots lost to the Giants in the Superbowl after his season ended and he didn't get it.

Are you sure? You sound legitimate but Willoughby South HS lists Kareem Hunt as the 100m record holder at 10.80 and nobody from your era is listed in the top times but maybe there is a mistake.

Yeah, I dunno what's going on with the record thing. I ran a 10.76 FAT to win my district meet my senior year at South (made it to state that year, took last in the 100 final, but I didn't run as fast at Regionals or State as I did in my district), and I've heard through the grape vine that they have credited Hunt as "tying" my record at 10.80...which...makes no sense. It would be news to me if they've even gone so far as to not even acknowledge my result at all...so I dunno.

I have limited cintacts with the school anymore, and even if I did I wouldn't know how to go about how to address the issue. But I remember being happy with myself at the end of Hunts senior year that he didn't go as fast ad I did. In the end I guess it's my own personal joy since record keeping is a joke across the board and slip ups like this happen all the time. The same thing has happened to me with stadium records a lot, too. Again, who would I contact about such things because...ultimately...who cares. You know?

I'm weird and I'm kinda Uncle Rico-ish, though, so I care...hence why I talk about it.

But yeah, for sure he doesn't actually have the record. I bet they are just excited that he made the NFL and so I get forgotten. Plus I think the guy who's the head coach at South now has it out for me cause he was an assistant when I was there and we had issues.... He WOULD be a contact, but I try not to recognize his existence. He either knows the truth and doesn't care, or he never really understood sprinting so he doesn't realize my 10.76 was faster than 10.80...

machooman wrote:

Are you sure? You sound legitimate but Willoughby South HS lists Kareem Hunt as the 100m record holder at 10.80 and nobody from your era is listed in the top times but maybe there is a mistake.

I'd be curious who they have the 200m record listed as, where did you find that info? Just a google search? I also have the 200 record and as far as I know no ones been REMOTELY close to that. So I dunno how I'd get bumped at all on that one, unless the coach is LEGIT eliminating me...which would kinda creepy.

I really am not knowledgeable about any of those records and yes I simply did a google search and I did not see an official record book as far as I know, but rather a list of top performances.

machooman wrote:

I really am not knowledgeable about any of those records and yes I simply did a google search and I did not see an official record book as far as I know, but rather a list of top performances.

Oh, yeah, I did a quick google, too. The first couple hits on the results are built I think on results from no earlier that '09 apparently. I was before that.

Ironically, I also found a google hit that has me credited as running 10.74 for the school record, which is ALSO wrong. Again, that seems to imply that coach never really learned much or cared about sprinting.

I assume I was at one point credited with that 10.74 by adding .24 to the 10.5 hand time I had run that year, but the 10.76 FAT I actually ran is the result I thought the "team" had settled on as the more legit "FAT" record. Even if the hand time records were phased out, I would have figured that FAT record would have stuck as official.

This is why one shouldn't live in the past. It's all moot.

Galen Rupp, 2018 Boston Marathon.

cruz culpepper, while he was still on the come-up (it was in 2017).

that said, it was a cross country race (not his strongest area), and he broke his foot mid-race... still, it counts in my mind

A few local d1 runners that dropped out of a local 5k

On the masters circuit Frank Shorter and Barry Brown.

I was once in the last kilometer of that International 10 k road race race... You know, a race that Kamworor once won , such as did other big names in the history of the race... So, I was there running at my 17 km per hour speed when I saw that runner in front of me. I said to myself "Can I kick like mad and finish in from of him ? At least I have to try". So I did, and got him. I even finished 20 secondes ahead of him. I did something like 35:30, and I am not sure he did break 36''. He did'nt even try to fight when I passed him by at (my) full speed. I guess I went so fast he did'nt even notice me neither does he, today (like 1 min after the race), remember having been beaten by me (and 200 runners that day), That's the day I kicked Hicham El Guerrouj and beat him in a 10 k.

(please don't remind me he was just there an honorary guest, that he had put aside his career the year before, and that he was on a easy jogging among the crowded pack of runners that day. Please let me imagine I got him!)

Gwen Jorgensen in a 5k.

Clayton Murphy

Gerry Haslam. And that was one time out of a couple dozen attempts. A rainy 20k in Portola Valley, Calif. I managed to stay a few yards ahead of Gerry and his buddy Frank Haggerty, who were sort of strolling and chatting, even said something joking as I clawed my way past them in the final yards.

Still, a win is a win.

Isn't it?

A guy named Don Brown (I think?) in 1972. He qualified for the '72 OT marathon. We were in the same road races five times that year. He won one and took second in another; the rest he DNFed.

So I beat him three out of five.

I beat Michael Tinsley in 2014 in the 400 hurdles. Granted he hit hurdle three hard and bagged the rest of his race, but I got him.

I suggest this......Get it changed... show as many list/links/results as you can. Record books/top 10/etc list need to be accurate. Have a friend do it if you don’t want to begin contact with that coach.