Will Jakob I. Become the first athlete ever to run sub 3:30, 7:30, 13:00 & 27:00?

Bad Wigins wrote:

All right, I'll take the bait.

800+ all-time GOAT Augustine Choge has already done that, except plus sub 1:45 and minus sub 27. But he's already proven capable of the sub 27 by running sub 60 HM twice.

Jakob will never be capable of a sub 60 HM. Too big. Sub 27 is debatable. Choge will run sub 27 if he ever decides it's important to him. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to understand his unique place in history and might not bother.

Choge's fitness is all over the place. too many things need to come together for him for this to happen. right fitness, competition, weather, etc. and now he is getting old. is probably Farah and Bekele's age at this point. chances of hitting sub 27 in 10,000 are very low.

Kim McDonald always stated that Daniel Komen would be the first sub-26:30 athlete. He definitely was capable.

“But he is competitive. You should not overlook the fact that there may be two to three street races. We have played a bit with the idea of ​​the half marathon WC in Poland (October 17), but have not received an invitation, says Gjert Ingebrigtsen jokingly.“

The first three are possible for him, the last one isn't.

Obviously Farah could have done it. He just cared more about winning golds/races than setting records, especially in an unimportant event like the 3k. Nowadays Farah can't win golds anymore, so he goes for soft records.

Not sure if Cheptegei and Kiplimo can run sub 3:30? Maybe some time in the future?

Jake Ruler wrote:

Jakob will break world record for every distance from 1500 to 1/2M. Some of you know that but don't want to admit it because he is white.

One of the worst troll posts ever ...

He can't even beat Kiplimo in the 3k, let alone the 5k ... not to mention that Cheptegei is lightyears ahead of him in the 5k. I don't even see him beating the european record in the 10k.

objectiveobserver wrote:

Jakob could probably run well under 60 in the HM with one or two months of preparations!

That is what his treshold pace, which is probably 22km/ hour or faster at the moment,. indicates.

Jakob can run well under 12:50 in a 5000m. That is what his 1500m and 3000m times indicate.

Normally you can double your 5000m time and add a minute to get your 10.000m time. So yes Jakob can also go well under 27 in the 10.000m!

Your predictions are more based on feelings than factual observations.

And no, Jakob´s progression has not stopped at all and won´t stop soon.

Very weird use of the word "can" ...

The only way to know if he "can" do something is if he actually does it.

Bad Wigins wrote:

All right, I'll take the bait.

800+ all-time GOAT Augustine Choge has already done that, except plus sub 1:45 and minus sub 27. But he's already proven capable of the sub 27 by running sub 60 HM twice.

Jakob will never be capable of a sub 60 HM. Too big. Sub 27 is debatable. Choge will run sub 27 if he ever decides it's important to him. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to understand his unique place in history and might not bother.

Again, what an unbelievable nonsense. Choge has never proven to be capable of sub 27.

"Choge will run sub 27 if he ever decides it's important to him."

Nonsense, as usual. His last track race was over four years ago. How likely is it he "decides" that it is important to him? Even if he "decides" this, he is far from beeing capable to do it.

jake ruler wrote:

You are correct. He is the most talented runner in the world. He just needs to develop a bit more mental toughness in order to be able to beat the other top guys. I think that will come next year now that he is no longer a teenager. Give him 2 years and he will hold many world records and will comfortably beat the other guys.

Very bad take. Kiplimo is younger and better than him, despite not living in one of the richest countries in the world with unlimited opportunities.

I'm sure he'll get there, unavoidable. most likely first. but he won't be the first guy so talented. others could have it it were important to them. maybe el gherrouj, definitely bekele, komen, geb, farah, haile

oops

gebrselassie and gebrhiwet (who may beat him to it) instead of 'geb and haile' lol

Yes wrote:

one of the worst troll posts ever ...

He can't even beat Kiplimo in the 3k, let alone the 5k ... not to mention that Cheptegei is lightyears ahead of him in the 5k. I don't even see him beating the european record in the 10k.

One of the worst troll posts ever ...

He has plenty more time to develop and is already one of the top 10 athletes in the 1500, 2000, and 3000. Next year he'll undoubtedly be in contention for at least a 1500m medal. He already holds several European records, so it is not a stretch at all to say he could have the 10k record in the next couple years.

Aouita could have done this 35 years ago.

Yes wrote:

Kiplimo is younger and better than him, despite not living in one of the richest countries in the world with unlimited opportunities.

Kiplimo is in the Rosa management, with at least 10 runners busted for doping in the last years. Just saying...

objectiveobserver wrote:

Jakob could probably run well under 60 in the HM with one or two months of preparations!

That is what his treshold pace, which is probably 22km/ hour or faster at the moment,. indicates.

Jakob can run well under 12:50 in a 5000m. That is what his 1500m and 3000m times indicate.

Normally you can double your 5000m time and add a minute to get your 10.000m time. So yes Jakob can also go well under 27 in the 10.000m!

Your predictions are more based on feelings than factual observations.

And no, Jakob´s progression has not stopped at all and won´t stop soon.

joggergal wrote:

I can tell you that you are not an objective observer. You say Jakob can run well under 12:50. Then you are stating that Jakob is mentally WEAK. Jakob just was beaten by an12:48 runner at 3000m. One would think that a 3:28 runner who can run well under 12:50 would defeat a 12:48 runner who relies more on stamina. However, Jakob could not and so you are calling him mentally WEAK. I do not think he is WEAK as you do.

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Nonsense joggergal. You are twisting my words!

I maintain that Jakob in a wellpaced 5000m right now could go 12:45 to 12:47 BUT......

I am (now) sure Jacob Kiplimo can go even faster in the 5000m. When Jacob first have understood and digested how well he has run his last races he will in my opinion in a 5000m - as well paced as the 3000m in Rome - be able to challenge Barega´s PB. (As you possible is aware Jacob stated after the 3000m that he hadn´t expected to go faster than 7:30!)

Also - as pointed out by other posters - Jacob ran most of the 5000m in Ostrava alone so good pacing in itself will give him several seconds in improvement!

I was a bit surprised over Jacob´s level in the 3000m but - as said - when Jacob first realizes how good he will run even faster!

So no shame (or weakness) for Jakob to loose to Jacob!

GURU OF RUNNING:

"Jakob will compete at world half in october against Kamwo and Cheptegei. I guess we’ll find out then"

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Gjert has mentioned it as a possibility. I don´t think it is finally decided yet.

Dope Hardstrong wrote:

Aouita could have done this 35 years ago.

lol maybe but that doesn't mean Jakob can't

erico123 wrote:

The Monaco argument is retarded though, jakob and Tim ran faster in Lausanne last year. Monaco is the place where every 1500m runner gives it all with good pacing and nice weather. It's not shorter or downhill, but idiots in this forum seems to think so. If the meet organisers of any other stadium gives the same economic reward as Monaco i guess we will see the same times. Is the world record set in Monaco btw?

Dude relax, I wasn’t claiming it was short or downhill (a track literally can’t be all downhill, that’s impossible ?). You stated “ Monaco is the place where every 1500m runner gives it all with good pacing and nice weather.” and that was basically my point, Choge didn’t have the luxury of the perfect race set up (bare in mind I have no idea how the Berlin race he ran his PR in was set up).