I mean, it's obvious that he has the potential, and has already achieve two of the marks and can probably run sub 13:00 right now.
But the question is, will he be able to run under 27min and become the first athlete ever to run those times or will someone get it first?
Don't forget 8:00. I think he's one of the few who can translate with just a little effort.
probably, but so could Hicham, Lagat and Komen. They didn't but thats because it wasn't a big deal
Most. Likley, but im surprised farah has not done this.
It’s a shame Augustine Choge never ran a sub 27 10k. However he does have a sub 1:45 800 & a sub 60 HM which is arguably more impressive that what you proposed for Jakob I.
Augustine Choge:
800: 1:44.86
1500: 3:29.47
3km: 7:28.00 (I)
5km: 12:53.66
HM: 59:26
Also worth noting his 1500m was set in Berlin not Monaco.
erico123 wrote:
probably, but so could Hicham, Lagat and Komen.
Sub 27:00? Nah, not even Komen.
The Monaco argument is retarded though, jakob and Tim ran faster in Lausanne last year. Monaco is the place where every 1500m runner gives it all with good pacing and nice weather. It's not shorter or downhill, but idiots in this forum seems to think so. If the meet organisers of any other stadium gives the same economic reward as Monaco i guess we will see the same times. Is the world record set in Monaco btw?
Jakob is in shape to do 1.46 low and sub 27 at the same time tough, Choge's pb's are far away
with 800m being 8 years from half marathon pb
erico123 wrote:
Jakob is in shape to do 1.46 low and sub 27 at the same time tough, Choge's pb's are far away
with 800m being 8 years from half marathon pb
Not saying your wrong, but how do you know.
True, it's not a guaranteed, but very probable. He should rather go for sub 3,26 than the best allround average distance time though
yop wrote:
Most. Likley, but im surprised farah has not done this.
yes. how you can be 3:28 and 12:53 (realistically at least 12:45) and not 7:30 is insane. He did race the 3k a fair number of times.
malmo wrote:
erico123 wrote:
probably, but so could Hicham, Lagat and Komen.
Sub 27:00? Nah, not even Komen.
Well we can be pretty certain that Lagat had the ability if he had wanted to. After all he ran 27:49 at age 41. As for Komen, it is difficult to imagine at his peak 12:39 fitness that he could not run 13:30 followed by 13:29.
high school xc coach wrote:
yop wrote:
Most. Likley, but im surprised farah has not done this.
yes. how you can be 3:28 and 12:53 (realistically at least 12:45) and not 7:30 is insane. He did race the 3k a fair number of times.
He didn’t run 3ks. He ran 8:03 indoor 2 mile though.
boaster wrote:
high school xc coach wrote:
yes. how you can be 3:28 and 12:53 (realistically at least 12:45) and not 7:30 is insane. He did race the 3k a fair number of times.
He didn’t run 3ks. He ran 8:03 indoor 2 mile though.
this is a list of his best 3k from each year. some years he ran it 3 or 4 times. This is an outdoor only list.
2017 7:35.15 Olympic Stadium, London (GBR) 09 JUL 2017
2016 7:32.62 Alexander Stadium, Birmingham (GBR) 05 JUN 2016
2015 7:34.66 Olympic Stadium, London (GBR) 24 JUL 2015
2013 7:36.85 Olympic Stadium, London (GBR) 27 JUL 2013
2011 7:40.15 Crystal Palace, London (GBR) 05 AUG 2011
2010 7:40.75 Crystal Palace, London (GBR) 13 AUG 2010
2009 7:39.02 Torino (ITA) 04 JUN 2009
2008 7:39.55 Stade Louis II, Monaco (MON) 29 JUL 2008
2007 7:41.86 Letzigrund, Zürich (SUI) 07 SEP 2007
2006 7:38.15 Zagreb (CRO) 31 AUG 2006
2005 8:00.9h Sheffield (GBR) 21 AUG 2005
2001 8:09.24 Loughborough (GBR) 20 MAY 2001
2000 8:03.58 Cardiff (GBR) 05 JUL 2000
1999 8:16.18 Neubrandenburg (GER) 21 AUG 1999
1998 8:33.51 Ayr (GBR) 18 JUL 1998
1997 8:47.48 Bedford (GBR) 05 JUL 1997
All right, I'll take the bait.
800+ all-time GOAT Augustine Choge has already done that, except plus sub 1:45 and minus sub 27. But he's already proven capable of the sub 27 by running sub 60 HM twice.
Jakob will never be capable of a sub 60 HM. Too big. Sub 27 is debatable. Choge will run sub 27 if he ever decides it's important to him. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to understand his unique place in history and might not bother.
Jakob will break world record for every distance from 1500 to 1/2M. Some of you know that but don't want to admit it because he is white.
Jakob could probably run well under 60 in the HM with one or two months of preparations!
That is what his treshold pace, which is probably 22km/ hour or faster at the moment,. indicates.
Jakob can run well under 12:50 in a 5000m. That is what his 1500m and 3000m times indicate.
Normally you can double your 5000m time and add a minute to get your 10.000m time. So yes Jakob can also go well under 27 in the 10.000m!
Your predictions are more based on feelings than factual observations.
And no, Jakob´s progression has not stopped at all and won´t stop soon.
objectiveobserver wrote:
Jakob could probably run well under 60 in the HM with one or two months of preparations!
That is what his treshold pace, which is probably 22km/ hour or faster at the moment,. indicates.
Jakob can run well under 12:50 in a 5000m. That is what his 1500m and 3000m times indicate.
Normally you can double your 5000m time and add a minute to get your 10.000m time. So yes Jakob can also go well under 27 in the 10.000m!
Your predictions are more based on feelings than factual observations.
And no, Jakob´s progression has not stopped at all and won´t stop soon.
I can tell you that you are not an objective observer. You say Jakob can run well under 12:50. Then you are stating that Jakob is mentally WEAK. Jakob just was beaten by an12:48 runner at 3000m. One would think that a 3:28 runner who can run well under 12:50 would defeat a 12:48 runner who relies more on stamina. However, Jakob could not and so you are calling him mentally WEAK. I do not think he is WEAK as you do.
You are correct. He is the most talented runner in the world. He just needs to develop a bit more mental toughness in order to be able to beat the other top guys. I think that will come next year now that he is no longer a teenager. Give him 2 years and he will hold many world records and will comfortably beat the other guys.
Jakob will compete at world half in october against Kamwo and Cheptegei. I guess we’ll find out then
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