Julian Wanders, overcooked in Monaco

Wasn't his day. Could have been the 79 degree temperature. Still a very good runner. Just had an off day.

I feel that JW leaves his best performances in the practice. JG is the same- his 3k + 500m x (5?) indicates 13’05.

Perhaps with experience and maturity, it will help.

With the exception of the extremely suspicious Cheptegei most underperformed at the 5k. Crippa was most devastated, and certainly Henrik. Obviously due to the weather conditions. Wanders will get to run in normal weather soon.

Seems like a good guy. As he got lapped he cheered the new WR holder on. Nice show of class. He'll be back.

Julien shares all his training on Strava and has been crushing it there. Perhaps he didn't taper enough, although I don't know how that works for pros.

He is a decent guy and comes off very well in interviews. Wishing him all the best for future races, in the scheme of things DL isn't important.

If you look at Julien wanders career he has zero good track races, but a lot of pretty good road races( ER in 10k and half maraton). To me it looks like he doesnt have the speed to perform at the track where pacing can vary alot and you need to handle the fartslek running of one 200 in 30s, Next in 34s Next in 31 etc. Whereas on the road the pacing is alot smoother and is the reason many runners can be close to their 10k track pb when running half marathon.

If you look at the best over 5k in the last years Barega, Kejelcha, Gebrihiwet, Mo Farah, Bekele, they all have the ability to run a sub 53s last 400m and run 1500m close to 3:30. Cheptegei is the only exception, but he has also worked a lot on his speed the last years.

Coldest take of the day, folks. Pacing is better in road races? Uhh no.

I think it was just an off-day.

However, I will say that I also think he could have ran faster than 13:49, but when he saw that his body wasn't responding he just gave up trying to go fast and just went along, he didn't see the point of suffering so much just to run a 13:2X

Starno wrote:

However, I will say that I also think he could have ran faster than 13:49, but when he saw that his body wasn't responding he just gave up trying to go fast and just went along, he didn't see the point of suffering so much just to run a 13:2X

In Iten and Eldoret he was usually ahead of Gressier, especially the long reps. He will be back. Can he run 3:37 for 1500 like J.G. ? Not sure, but based on his 13:13 he should be close, but he is more diesel like Lopes and Keflezighi both of whom never ran faster than 3:40. Everything is related to a certain degree. Cheptegei’s 7:35 split was insane. I think Joshua can run 26:00-26:10 in perfect conditions.

Why anybody is surprised is beyond me, 6 months micro dosing and more Springs added to the shoes.

Logical results

Earlyboy wrote:

Why anybody is surprised is beyond me, 6 months micro dosing and more Springs added to the shoes.

Logical results

Springs? Where exactly are these magical springs located? Or are you just another ill informed critic making unfounded allegations?

Wanders raced a 3:43 1500 a few days before Monaco in a race with several guys faster. That does not indicate great shape.

Gressier ran 3:37 in a small meet ftw. I think Gressier is now better at 5k than JW.

That said, all those in the 5k underperformed except the first 2. Heat and no pacer for the second group did not help.

I think most of those guys can do 13:00-13:10 in better conditions.

Wanders ran a very impressive workout for him, something I'd never seen him come close to before in terms of speed, so it is quite likely that he left his race on the workout track. With some more rest and cooler weather, he might still show that he was close to 13 shape.

He ran a 30 min treadmill 10k the day after Monaco. Active recovery?!

Was that him cheering on Chep as he was getting lapped by him? Classy but then again he got lapped in a 5000, for which, by definition, you have to be at least a minute worse than the winner. If it's an elite race, getting lapped means you don't belong, there should be a rule that they get pulled off.

barely into Monday and this will win dumbest post of the week: "but then again he got lapped in a 5000, for which, by definition, you have to be at least a minute worse than the winner. If it's an elite race, getting lapped means you don't belong, there should be a rule that they get pulled off."

How many elite 5000's have a WR run in them? exactly. 2nd ran 12:51 and JW was less than a minute behind. he was overcooked and still jogged in, in 13:49. calm yourself

It was clear as day that he was jogging. Plus he even moved in lane 2 when JK lapped him and he gave him a graceful cheer for good measure. People have too much time on their hands these days. What is dumb is posting comments without having seen the race

He rarely performs well when he’s had to be for more than a few days away from Kenya. He’s best performances come from Flight, shakeout, race day after. Homesickness!?