Boulder YouTubers don’t know how to run

likeUObut... wrote:

It's because these kids are really not training but rather "performing" for the camera & trying to make it with the girls. Never seen so many runners in CO socializing during a pandemic. If they don't all create a Covid cluster will be a miracle.

Wake Forest boys already created on amongst some of the NCAA kids up in Flag

Just out of curiosity, how does that Ben Crawford dude fit into the picture? I’ve gathered from other threads that he works for mile split and hey just part of the ‘in crowd’ but was never a talented runner himself. Did he go to high school with one of the guys he films or something?

smhjjjjj wrote:

PNWashedup wrote:

they also don't know how to social distance or have any respect to the fact that this is not a normal summer... kids coming from all over the country and clearly not quarantining on arrival, posting parties on social media and running in massive groups... people not getting sick is more important than running in boulder with a camera crew .... they wonder why they wont race for months due to the shutdowns.

+1 really sucks to see them, especially as they are role models for a lot of hs kids ...

+1

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He started working for milesplit in HS and meet Cooper, Evert, etc. He no longer works for milesplit, just as the photographer for oregon xc/track. Now he's good friends with everyone on the team, and went with them to boulder for the summer.

You don't have to watch if it upsets you.

What so many runners struggle to understand is the importance of keeping easy runs easy and simply enjoying the sport. In an ongoing hiatus from any real competition, a sport like running is hard to truly just enjoy. Every great runner you’ve ever watched has taken breaks during run, stopped to chat for a bit, or just grabbed some water. Believe me, this isn’t just now happening.

hemorrhoid wrote:

Ever watched an Athlete Special video? Ben Crawford? Those guys are taking breaks on every run. Check Strava too. Bathroom breaks, water breaks, even just stopping to catch their breaths. Do these guys know how to run? In a race, you don’t stop. The likes of Cooper “Can’t Run Up a Hill” Teare, Evert “Every Excuse in the Book” Silva, and Reed “Ready to Take a Break” Brown will likely GO HOME DEVASTATED this fall if there is indeed a cross country season. Without the cameraman and the pace car, they will not be able to perform in races, and they will be extremely confused when the entire field doesn’t stop with them halfway up the big hill in Stillwater.

Spoken like a sulking under-achiever....

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Highschool dreamer wrote:

likeUObut... wrote:

It's because these kids are really not training but rather "performing" for the camera & trying to make it with the girls. Never seen so many runners in CO socializing during a pandemic. If they don't all create a Covid cluster will be a miracle.

Wake Forest boys already created on amongst some of the NCAA kids up in Flag

Wait what's the story here? A bunch of NCAA runners got COVID in Flag because WF brought it there and they all ran together?

The funny thing is that I see this with lots of fairly fast people in my area. I see they do a long run at a fairly decent clip (~6:30 pace) and upon further inspection the moving time is 30 minutes less than the elapsed time. What gives with this? I never stop on runs except during emergency code browns or to grab a quick drink.

smhjjjjj wrote:

PNWashedup wrote:

they also don't know how to social distance or have any respect to the fact that this is not a normal summer... kids coming from all over the country and clearly not quarantining on arrival, posting parties on social media and running in massive groups... people not getting sick is more important than running in boulder with a camera crew .... they wonder why they wont race for months due to the shutdowns.

+1 really sucks to see them, especially as they are role models for a lot of hs kids ...

Like Sir Charles said, “I am not a role model.” Don’t ask a group of NCAA runners to raise/coach your kids for you. Imo what you see in these videos is the most realistic depiction of cross country runners on YouTube. Get over it. Coop has split 3:55 and run 13:30. Evert has run 13:46. Reed has run 3:57. Taking a break to drink some water on an easy or long run is not what makes or breaks your fitness.

I've been waiting for someone else to notice this. The breaks don't bother me as much as Spencer's form sucks. He's not going to be a pro unless he focuses on his biomechanics more than his mileage. Seriously, go put some strength into those glutes and lower abdominals. Before the possible replies come in, yes I know that he has already broken 4:00 for the mile.

zzzz wrote:

smhjjjjj wrote:

+1 really sucks to see them, especially as they are role models for a lot of hs kids ...

+1

https://youtu.be/AqZChhQrfTk

As someone who likes Phils YouTube channel he can extremely pretentious and hypocritical sometimes.

I'm going to agree with the rest who say that stopping a bit and keeping runs a little easy isn't too bad, however, IMO, strava and everyone else should be more honest about this and show the elasped pace along with moving pace. Just showing moving pace is pretty close to lying.

128k wrote:

no one cares lol

i’m glad you don’t care about social distancing and quarantining yourself when entering a new state and running in massive groups and partying with people from all over the country!!! that’s a great thing for the health and well being of the country during a pandemic! good luck with your cross country season… oh wait

calling out 13:45 5k guys for not training properly?

Interesting opinion, please go on!

Quentin Quarantino wrote:

Highschool dreamer wrote:

Wake Forest boys already created on amongst some of the NCAA kids up in Flag

Wait what's the story here? A bunch of NCAA runners got COVID in Flag because WF brought it there and they all ran together?

I don't know the whole story, I just have heard from a kid who used to be on our team who runs at NAU now that she was partying with a bunch of kids from diffrent teams up at a couple houses in Flag but some WF boys tested positive and now a bunch of kids r back in isolation

128k wrote:

I'm going to agree with the rest who say that stopping a bit and keeping runs a little easy isn't too bad, however, IMO, strava and everyone else should be more honest about this and show the elasped pace along with moving pace. Just showing moving pace is pretty close to lying.

+1

Most of these guys post the splits/pace and flex on rolling whatever quick splits they hit, which is nice, but the elapsed pace tells the full story. Nothing wrong with staying hydrated in hot weather/altitude but as has been mentioned repeated stops is a little ridiculous for a bunch of youtubers clout chasing