Yes or No: Joe Biden will win the presidency

She won because of California and for no other reason. She won millions of more votes in California. Without one state, just one state, Trump wins the popular vote. Ever hear of the Electoral College?

You can't say that about Hillary. She had 227 electoral votes, Trump had 304. Hillary won 18 states, Trump won 32!!!!!!!

Trump won 32 states, including states like Wyoming, with 500,000 people.

Hillary won states like Illinois, with 12 million people.

I know that Trump won a few bigger states. but not as many, obviously, because he lost the popular vote. Saying that Trump should be President because he won the small states is saying that votes in Wyoming should count for 24x the weight of my vote in Illinois.

Plus, in like a decade, North Carolina and Texas will go blue, so by then Republicans will finally have to do the right thing and agree to abolish the electoral college.

Giles Corey wrote:

[quote]dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:

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Realistically I don't think any US president has every been reelected after a 3x increase in the unemployment rate over their term.

Pretty sure no other president had the governors shut down nearly all businesses in an election year before.

At some point the responsibility for what happens falls to the president. See the blame that Obama got for Bush's trillion dollar deficits in his first year. You might say it isn't fair. It is how things work. You look back and think how much better things were 4 years ago when the other guy was in charge and you regret you choices. Again you might think that isn't fair but crappy economies have sunk many presidencies. Look at Bush Sr for a guy who went from a war hero to zero because of one shortest and mildest recessions ever.

what's a few orders of magnitude wrote:

This is very concerning.

Please Google "Biden 120 million".

Trump said when the number of Covid cases were 15 they were soon going to zero. But they kept increasing (there are now more than 1.35m active cases). So he was out by almost a factor of 100,000.

He also thinks there were airports in the 18th century.

I think Biden's most famous slip up was "... doh, goh, [gesticulating exasperatedly] you know the thing" which was apt, because most people did know what he meant. Similarly, anyone can slip up and say million instead of thousand.

But nobody knows why Trump thinks people should inject bleach.

I PRAY TO GOD TRUMP WILL GO AWAY!!!!!!

No. There are far more Trump supporters than people believe. Most of them, however, aren't very vocal about their opinions and they often tell people they will vote Biden to avoid controversy at school/work. The loud, uneducated, confederate-flag waving Trump supporters are a tiny percentage of his supporters.

Something else to note is that Trump has become very appealing to Black voters, especially because of historic funding to Black organizations and low Black unemployment/welfare rates. Candace Owens, Clarence Thomas, David Webb, Thomas Sowell, etc. have also started to gain popularity in recent years, which is shifting many Black votes in Trump's favor.

I honestly don't see how Trump loses. The covid crisis is completley overblown, it's a very bad flu year at worst. The economy is coming back for those states that aren't so stupid as to think that we should still be worried about covid. Biden is a weak candidate, perhaps he can swing some moderates, but it's hard to see him winning.

Biden can run a mile in 21:52.

Trump can't run a mile.

sigh.

I hope so, but i don't think so.

Bullet_Proof wrote:

I never understood why people continued to go insane for 3 years straight, right after trump got elected, when all they needed to do was accept the loss, live their life, and vote for someone else in 2020.

Well, I am surrounded by Dems/libs in NYC, and I can tell you that none of the ones I encounter bemoan the election itself--in fact they completely accepted it before Thanksgiving 2016.

Why they "continue[ ] to go insane" now is because of *really bad stuff* that Donald Trump and his GOP enablers are doing NOW, including things that are bad for the country in the short- and medium- as well as the long-term.

I personally don't hold any particular animus toward the President--I wish him and his familly well. I just think he's massively unqualified for his position and unfortunately has not grown in the office.

ilxcrunner wrote:

Without one state, just one state, Trump wins the popular vote. Ever hear of the Electoral College?

Yes, and I did the math back in 2016--if you arbitrarily subtract a bunch of states whose total population is just slightly under California's, then HRC wins the Electoral College.

See how pointless that kind of statement is? HRC won the popular vote, DJT won the only vote that counts. Why not accept *both* of those facts and move on?

slripe00101110 wrote:

It does make sense to put all our faith in a declining septuagenarian whose prolific 40 yr career shows that he is willing to do anything for money.

So you're saying we *should* vote for President Trump?

It really depends on who his VP. Biden over the last few years is obviously experiencing dementia. He looks like Bernie from Weekend at Bernies. If the dems can pick an exciting VP to run the show then yes. Who that exciting VP is? Well...

trollism wrote:

sbeefyk2===biased and wrong again wrote:

28% is NOT a realistic chance. You must be demented to a whole different level. It was suppose to be a landslide victory. Love it when liberals lie. You REALLY like to distort facts.

Wow.

Somebody really doesn't understand probabilities.

Somebody doesn't understand English, either. That's supposed to, Numby.

Trump will win. He has a huge silent majority.

Nope wrote:

No. There are far more Trump supporters than people believe. Most of them, however, aren't very vocal about their opinions and they often tell people they will vote Biden to avoid controversy at school/work. The loud, uneducated, confederate-flag waving Trump supporters are a tiny percentage of his supporters.

Something else to note is that Trump has become very appealing to Black voters, especially because of historic funding to Black organizations and low Black unemployment/welfare rates. Candace Owens, Clarence Thomas, David Webb, Thomas Sowell, etc. have also started to gain popularity in recent years, which is shifting many Black votes in Trump's favor.

great joke post

8/10

Did any of you see Biden's most recent ad? He is stumbling through his 30 seconds. Who knows how many times they retook it and still he sounded retarded. No way he will survive the debates (he may literally die).

No one had mentioned almost all presidents get reelected. We are still too far out for polls to mean much especially with kung flu distorting everything. I don't think many will blame it on Trump. A normal recession would have been worse as Trump can point fingers at Democrat governors for not reopening and my bet is Europe has a second wave of covid making it seem like a mute point. It is probably best for Trump that we get this big spike over with before October as most will quickly forget. He can also point to travel bans etc at trying to save America from covid and pin it on China. As has been mentioned Biden excites no one and his son's corruption case will be baggage along with the failed impeachment.

werwe wrote:

Trump will win. He has a huge silent majority.

Where were they in 2016?

Even then it was a minority, a loud mouthed minority. The so called silent majority is an absolute myth.

I feel like Trump is mathematically eliminated, so yes. It's Biden's race to lose. He would need to choke even harder than Hillary did which is difficult to do.

You sheep are not very smart are you? I heard this same stuff last time around. Trump will win in a land slide! Haha. Yo even consider Biden makes you a complete moron. The geez can’t even talk let alone think like a normal human being. Trump has done more for this country than any president ever. Yee Haw. You kids are gonna throw a hissy fit in November. Gonna be a blast.