Drew Brees ??‍♂️

douglas burke wrote:

Drew Brees said the Right Thing, Most People agree with him, including Black People. Never Apologize when you are correct.

Should Nathan Hale have had to Apologize for saying My only regret is I have but One Life to give for my Country when he was about to be executed?

Of Course Not.

This reads like a Trump tweet. Random capitalization, factual assumptions (most people agree with Drew Brees) and some sort of attempt at hollow patriotism (Nathan Hale, really?). I understand the perspective, although I disagree. Reading it just makes me sad, like there are people who are learning to express their opinions in Trump tweets.

VroomVroom wrote:

Or 3. Stand by what he said lmao. Every opposing player has been trying to hit him as hard as they can the last 20 years. Get real. Any player that would try to take a cheap shot would get hammered in the only place players really care about and that's THE WALLET.

Cheap shots from defenders are not necessary when your protection starts allowing clear paths into the backfield. Aging quarterbacks don't do well when their line stumbles or no one picks up that edge coming hard from outside. Old Drew better make this right with his teammates or his season will be short and painful.

So much for the principled defense of the flag. As soon as his ability to make money was jeopardized even a little, he folded like a fish. Brees is a tool.

I guess middle ground doesn’t exist anymore. It’s either or now.

Since you used quotations to signify my voice I would humbly like to point out I did not say “I didn’t want to hear about it”. I’m glad Kap has done those things to which you’ve stated.

Seeing as my salary is a pittance compared to these athletes most of my efforts haven’t been monetary.

Since you’ve asked, I have helped earn hundreds of thousands of dollars in athletics and academic scholarships for students of all races, genders, and creeds. I’ve volunteered my time to tutor students at no cost. I’ve helped build and tend a community garden to give fresh organic food to those in need.

I’ve done more but it is already humiliating enough to mention this.

Yes there are serious issues facing our country. Yes the need to ge addressed. I only wish it was done in a less divisive manner is all.

Cash ching wrote:

So much for the principled defense of the flag. As soon as his ability to make money was jeopardized even a little, he folded like a fish. Brees is a tool.

Yes it did, the guy is weak.

The sad thing is he was right, Kaepernick and his followers in the wrong.

Being forced to stand for a flag is facism at its best. Exactly what WW2 soldiers were fighting against. Which I guess that NON of you’re. Facism is racism and Brees is clueless.

I don’t see how one could argue that Kaepernick divided his locker room but argue that Brees did not. It’s incongruous.

How about all you liberal WHITE knights take a knee and STFU. Quit using black people to push your dumb agenda. Brees has been nothing but a great man and class act.

Poor Kap, his privileged white wealthy life has left him with so much guilt.

kmaclam wrote:

douglas burke wrote:

Drew Brees said the Right Thing, Most People agree with him, including Black People. Never Apologize when you are correct.

Should Nathan Hale have had to Apologize for saying My only regret is I have but One Life to give for my Country when he was about to be executed?

Of Course Not.

Are you drunk Doug?

24/7

TIGER KING wrote:

How about all you liberal WHITE knights take a knee and STFU. Quit using black people to push your dumb agenda. Brees has been nothing but a great man and class act.

Who in this thread has “used black people to push their dumb agenda”?

The 'respecting the flag' schtick became a right wing dog-whistle sometime during the GW presidency. Faux patriotism that includes flashy shows of gigantic flags at sporting events, patronizing and transparent 'thanks' gestures made toward military members, while sending them to never-ending war under false pretense, ridiculous country songs screaming over the PA at events during which there is pressure to take off your hat, etc, etc, etc.

That stupid "I'm proud to be an American' country song - BARF.

That idiotic slogan "freedom ain't free" - BARF.

I'm an old guy with war service and say this: False patriotism can kiss my a$$.

It's all BS, patriotism as a brand, patriotism as a cudgel with which to beat others in the political arena. The right wing has tried for too many years now to steal patriotism from the rest of us and to use it as a way to beat down those who disagree with them.

Protests are marvelous. Kneeling, fantastic if there is a message and a goal behind it. As a veteran, I chafe at every event I go to where there is some patronizing mention of service members or some display of the flag. You want me to take my hat off? As a war veteran I say kiss my a$$.

If you served, shut up and be proud of having been honored by being able to serve. Also, don't use displays of patriotism to signal your virtue or as political statements. This country ought to be about its people, ALL of its people, and it has never lived up to its promise, yet. Only through those making noise and bucking the system can we move toward something better.

douglas burke wrote:

Drew Brees said the Right Thing, Most People agree with him, including Black People. Never Apologize when you are correct.

Should Nathan Hale have had to Apologize for saying My only regret is I have but One Life to give for my Country when he was about to be executed?

Of Course Not.

I think it is very sad what is happening to Brees now. The reality is by making him the enemy the black community is hurting their cause. When whites see Brees being torn down for comments that are not even remotely racist it is only going to hinder social change. If the standard becomes anytime a white person makes a comment black people don't like they immediately become vilified social change is going to go out the window.

I know people are upset but both sides need to look across at the other side and try to understand their background and point of view. Obviously white Americans enjoy privileges others do not. But making someone like Brees who has overwhelmingly done good the enemy is not a good start.

There is also a reality that a lot of people in America completely agree with his sentiment about the national anthem protests. The rest of the world wishes they were as lucky to live in such a free county. The reason there is not this racial discussion in many other parts of the world is it is suppressed. America isn't perfect but overall it is way ahead of many places and we are trying to get better.

TIGER KING wrote:

How about all you liberal WHITE knights take a knee and STFU. Quit using black people to push your dumb agenda. Brees has been nothing but a great man and class act.

Great men do not endorse pyramid schemes:

I think it is very sad what is happening to Kaepernick now. The reality is by making him the enemy the white community is hurting their cause. When blacks see Kaepernick being torn down for comments that are not even remotely racist it is only going to hinder social change. If the standard becomes anytime a black person makes a comment white people don't like they immediately become vilified social change is going to go out the window.

I know people are upset but both sides need to look across at the other side and try to understand their background and point of view. Obviously white Americans enjoy privileges others do not. But making someone like Kaepernick who has overwhelmingly done good the enemy is not a good start.

There is also a reality that a lot of people in America completely agree with his sentiment about the national anthem protests. The rest of the world wishes they were as lucky to live in such a free county. The reason there is not this racial discussion in many other parts of the world is it is suppressed. America isn't perfect but overall it is way ahead of many places and we are trying to get better.

Kaepernick is the wrong poster boy. Though I believe in the message I never believed in Kaepernick's sincerity. (And I've been a 49er fan since 1958.) I always thought that he was a punk who got called out for'sitting' during the anthem and decided to turn lemons into lemonade.

Drew Brees sells out and issues a fake apology:

SMH.

We all know that he means zero percent of what he states in this ridiculously disingenuous apology.

What is wrong with White Americans? Why are you so scared to stand up for your country, your flag and your brave ancestors?

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/04/sport/drew-brees-apology-nfl-spt-intl/index.html

Brees missed the mark of what he was trying to say. He sounded a lot like prvilege when he said it. He dissed his teammates. He sounded aloof.

Sounds he realised what he did today and is trying to make it right.

The NFL got Kaepernick and his protests all wrong.

Let's keep this conversation going....

A piece of cloth is not the country. If it was, those people driving their pick-ups with a tattered American flag flying, must hate our country.